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[SarcasticDave94]

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[ajack]

Try cutting wheat from your diet, then dairy if it doesn't work, these are the 2 main mucus forming allergies.
By chance I agree with this. When I went on LCHF for diabetes, My sinuses and nose/chest mucus cleared up. I wasn't on cpap at the time, so I can't say about the difference there.

You don't need to buy anything everything about LCHF or Ketogenic is available on the net. He sells a book, so I don't know if the link is allowed?? Google wheatbellyblog mucous-flows-where-wheat-goes/

Mucous flows where wheat goes
By Dr. Davis | July 17, 2013

We’ve heard from many readers who have noticed marked changes in their upper respiratory health, including relief from chronic sinus congestion, repeated sinus infections, and asthma. Here’s another observation from Kayla, who describes relief from nasal mucus production.

[zzzZorro]

Try cutting wheat from your diet, then dairy if it doesn't work, these are the 2 main mucus forming allergies.
By chance I agree with this. When I went on LCHF for diabetes, My sinuses and nose/chest mucus cleared up. I wasn't on cpap at the time, so I can't say about the difference there.

You don't need to buy anything everything about LCHF or Ketogenic is available on the net. He sells a book, so I don't know if the link is allowed?? Google wheatbellyblog mucous-flows-where-wheat-goes/

Mucous flows where wheat goes
By Dr. Davis | July 17, 2013

We’ve heard from many readers who have noticed marked changes in their upper respiratory health, including relief from chronic sinus congestion, repeated sinus infections, and asthma. Here’s another observation from Kayla, who describes relief from nasal mucus production.

My God man! I grind my wheat for whole wheat flour and bake my own bread.  My wife pesters me continually about eating peanut butter which I have done for almost 80 years.  Without those in my diet I just as well do what the old indians did- go out in the winter and settle down under a tree to pass to the happy hunting ground

[zzzZorro]

Not an option ajack;

Diets low in carbohydrate and high in fat (LCHF) have become increasingly popular lately. Many experts in the field of epidemiology and cardiovascular disease have expressed grave concern and warned that this change in dietary pattern may increase the risk of heart disease.

https://www.docsopinion.com/2014/03/17/w...t-disease/

[OpalRose]

Try cutting wheat from your diet, then dairy if it doesn't work, these are the 2 main mucus forming allergies.
By chance I agree with this. When I went on LCHF for diabetes, My sinuses and nose/chest mucus cleared up. I wasn't on cpap at the time, so I can't say about the difference there.

You don't need to buy anything everything about LCHF or Ketogenic is available on the net. He sells a book, so I don't know if the link is allowed?? Google wheatbellyblog mucous-flows-where-wheat-goes/

Mucous flows where wheat goes
By Dr. Davis | July 17, 2013

We’ve heard from many readers who have noticed marked changes in their upper respiratory health, including relief from chronic sinus congestion, repeated sinus infections, and asthma. Here’s another observation from Kayla, who describes relief from nasal mucus production.

My God man! I grind my wheat for whole wheat flour and bake my own bread.  My wife pesters me continually about eating peanut butter which I have done for almost 80 years.  Without those in my diet I just as well do what the old indians did- go out in the winter and settle down under a tree to pass to the happy hunting ground

Wow, if you have been grinding your own whole wheat flour and eating Peanut Butter for 80 years, then just keep on doing the same.

Seriously, I believe that our problems lie with the processed foods we consume, not so much what we are eating. My dad lived to be 97. His diet consisted of red meats, cheese, butter, etc. There were no processed foods when he was young.

[ajack]

I suggest you do more research, this isn't the place to debate Keys. Nor the poor science, that has been disproved. It was just a suggestion.

opal your dad was eating a more traditional diet. The obesity and T2 epidemic only occurred after the anti-fat, where the calories had to be replaced by sugars and starch.

[zzzZorro]

I suggest you do more research, this isn't the place to debate Keys. Nor the poor science, that has been disproved. It was just a suggestion.

opal your dad was eating a more traditional diet. The obesity and T2 epidemic only occurred after the anti-fat, where the calories had to be replaced by sugars and starch.

I very much appreciate all that you have contributed to helping me along the path to apnea improvement, but when I see anything anymore saying "may increase the risk of heart disease" I must avoid it.  Nothing meant to disparage your suggestion as I have heard it before elsewhere and it could well be correct.

Thanks ajack

[Shin Ryoku]

I suggest you do more research, this isn't the place to debate Keys. Nor the poor science, that has been disproved. It was just a suggestion.

opal your dad was eating a more traditional diet. The obesity and T2 epidemic only occurred after the anti-fat, where the calories had to be replaced by sugars and starch.

I very much appreciate all that you have contributed to helping me along the path to apnea improvement, but when I see anything anymore saying "may increase the risk of heart disease" I must avoid it.  Nothing meant to disparage your suggestion as I have heard it before elsewhere and it could well be correct.

Thanks ajack

So many things in medicine are uncertain.  The best diet composition for someone with heart disease is uncertain.  It's probably a safe bet to follow the AHA recommendations on this page while at the same time trying to keep portions of even the "good" starches (like whole grains) relatively smaller and replacing some of those portions with vegetables.  And it's certainly important to choose healthy fats (not saturated or trans) - that is something that studies have consistently shown for decades now.

At the same time, it's impossible to avoid absolutely anything that any doc thinks may increase heart risk.  There are so many things that fall into that category.  As an example, some sleep specialists feel that BPAP-ST may increase risk in people with heart disease because BPAP-ST has a lot in common with ASV.  And some docs feel that those therapies may even increase risk even in people without heart disease since it did so with people with a certain type of heart disease.  Etc etc.

If I had central apnea and a decreased EF, I would rather be on CPAP than on ASV or BPAP-ST unless I was getting poor results on CPAP.  How poor?  I don't really know.  If you are consistently under an AHI of 10 on CPAP and it could be under 5 on the right BPAP-ST settings, is that a good tradeoff?  I'm thinking that would depend on how you feel, but that would be a good thing to talk about with your sleep specialist.

[ajack]

It was just a suggestion about wheat being an allergen to some people, you can trial eliminate wheat and still have a high carb, sugars/starch diet.
I supposed I threw in a red herring. I came to eating lower carbs through diabetes and obesity. Unfortunately high sugar and starch increase the triglycerides and lower the HDL.
http://www.nutritionjrnl.com/article/S08...3/abstract

[zzzZorro]

I suggest you do more research, this isn't the place to debate Keys. Nor the poor science, that has been disproved. It was just a suggestion.

opal your dad was eating a more traditional diet. The obesity and T2 epidemic only occurred after the anti-fat, where the calories had to be replaced by sugars and starch.

I very much appreciate all that you have contributed to helping me along the path to apnea improvement, but when I see anything anymore saying "may increase the risk of heart disease" I must avoid it.  Nothing meant to disparage your suggestion as I have heard it before elsewhere and it could well be correct.

Thanks ajack

So many things in medicine are uncertain.  The best diet composition for someone with heart disease is uncertain.  It's probably a safe bet to follow the AHA recommendations on this page while at the same time trying to keep portions of even the "good" starches (like whole grains) relatively smaller and replacing some of those portions with vegetables.  And it's certainly important to choose healthy fats (not saturated or trans) - that is something that studies have consistently shown for decades now.

At the same time, it's impossible to avoid absolutely anything that any doc thinks may increase heart risk.  There are so many things that fall into that category.  As an example, some sleep specialists feel that BPAP-ST may increase risk in people with heart disease because BPAP-ST has a lot in common with ASV.  And some docs feel that those therapies may even increase risk even in people without heart disease since it did so with people with a certain type of heart disease.  Etc etc.

If I had central apnea and a decreased EF, I would rather be on CPAP than on ASV or BPAP-ST unless I was getting poor results on CPAP.  How poor?  I don't really know.  If you are consistently under an AHI of 10 on CPAP and it could be under 5 on the right BPAP-ST settings, is that a good tradeoff?  I'm thinking that would depend on how you feel, but that would be a good thing to talk about with your sleep specialist.

Appreciate your response.  Turns out that the CPAP mode is giving me the best (so far) AHI at 14cm.  Although it has been with the P-10 pillow and always showing large leaks; so I guessed the leaks were skewing the final count/apnea pattern.  I am in the process of doing some tests with the ST mode in that pressure range and leaning on a back-up to see if it will break the OAs.  Problem is that the ST-A only records Unknown apneas (UA) and does not differentiate OA and CA on SleepyHead so I have to figure it out.

I have been told that a local doctor (not the one I went to) when he has people with LVEF and high CA, they always get a CPAP and O2.  Maybe that is where I am headed eventually but I'm going to have to be convinced first.

There are charts attached both showing CPAP at 14cm. One uses the P-10 with leakage (and c-collar) and the other a F-20 FFM with no leakage (and no c-collar).  From these two charts the leakage badly skews the AHI.  The unknown here is that the collar was not used with the F-20.. so the conclusion is premature at this point. Still working on it..

My sleep specialist is usually 'not available'- so I wing it  

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