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[Equipment] Need advice for battery
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Need advice for battery
I know this topic was discussed multiple times, and I apologize if my questions were already answered.

I have an AirSense 10 machine and live in an area where power outages are relatively rare. But the time it happened, the power was lost once for an entire night. I have VERY bad memories of that night, and actually could not sleep at all (might be psychological). I want to avoid the risk completely and looking for a battery that can hold for at least 7-8 hours with a humidifier and heated tube. Will not use it for camping and travel, just at home.

Do you think that the options below are good for my purposes:

EASYLONGER CPAP Battery ES400 AIR
EASYLONGER CPAP Battery Backup ES720
EASYLONGER CPAP Battery Backup ES960
Bundle - Pilot-24 Lite CPAP Backup Battery

Any other leads or advice are highly appreciated.
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RE: Need advice for battery
We use a Jackery 240V2. Often on sale below $200. 
Five year warranty. Holds up without any issue.
Our power is suspectable to hurricanes, lots of them.

Plug into the 110V for a single night, no worries.
Want longer runtime, buy a 12V ResMed converter.
12V converter eliminates the inverter power loss.


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RE: Need advice for battery
Thanks, it is a more universal option than dedicated CPAP batteries.
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(11-06-2024, 04:20 PM)gennadyd Wrote: Thanks, it is a more universal option than dedicated CPAP batteries.

Absolutely. And less costly. We find them to be terrific.
Warranty is longer than anything dedicated we found.
They charge super fast as well. One hour from 0-100%.
Best wishes.
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RE: Need advice for battery
1 to charge the Jakery 240? amazon add says 7 hours.
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RE: Need advice for battery
(11-06-2024, 03:13 PM)gennadyd Wrote: the power was lost once for an entire night. I have VERY bad memories of that night, and actually could not sleep at all (might be psychological).

I was trapped on a cruise ship recently when my CPAP machine failed me. Four nights of torture. I'm sure a lot of it was psychological (anxiety) but I could not sleep as well.

If you are the least bit handy you could pull the battery from your vehicle, or just keep a sealed lead acid battery handy and charged. The ResMed 12 volt converter is a must, along with the adapter with a cigarette lighter socket on one end and a pair of alligator clips on the other other so that you can connect directly to the battery.

You may find the Jackery more convenient, it has a cigarette lighter socket so you can plug the ResMed adapter directly into it and skip the alligator clip adapter.

Without the ResMed 12 volt adapter you are wasting energy because you are using the Jackery inverter to convert DC to AC, and then the power brick on your CPAP machine to rectify the AC back to DC. A of lot energy is wasted there.

Do a test night to see if you have enough power to run the CPAP machine and the humidifier all night.

I also recommend a back up CPAP machine. You can get one pretty cheap on craigslist, just make sure you know how to get into the clinicican's menu and read the run hours. Don't buy or at least get a significant price reduction if the run hours are high. Figure 5 years of use at 8 hours a night as an estimate of the machine's lifetime. That's roughly 15,000 hours. Bring your own hose and mask with you and test the machine. Make sure it runs quiet and doesn't smell like it's been in a smoker's home. Often you find brand new machines. There's a large resale market. Something to do with Medicare not being allowed to provide used machines to patients.
Sleepster

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(11-06-2024, 08:08 PM)rdw1982 Wrote: 1 to charge the Jakery 240? amazon add says 7 hours.

One hour to charge the Jackery 240V2 (Version 2) using 110V and the "fast charge" option.
If you simply plug it into the wall and don't enable fast charge, less than 2 hours, from 0-100%.
Currently, they are discounted to $179.00 on the corporate website, an early Black Friday sale.
We enjoy the versatility, charge cell phones, built-in emergency light, etc. Very portable units.
And, as noted, they're way less costly, with a longer warranty, than anything nearly as nice.
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(11-06-2024, 10:24 PM)Sleepster Wrote: Do a test night to see if you have enough power to run the CPAP machine and the humidifier all night.

We're 100% positive the Jackery 240V2 will run a CPAP for a full night with lots of reserve.
Our locations (Tampa and Panama) are all about turning off the power, at times for days.

Correct about keeping a backup CPAP. We keep a spare unit to ensure we have equipment.
In our case, only one spare. Figure we shouldn't both breakdown at the same exact time.
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(11-07-2024, 06:23 AM)Tampa Jim Wrote: We're 100% positive the Jackery 240V2 will run a CPAP for a full night with lots of reserve.

Even with the humidifier set all the way up and the heated hose on? Some people do that. Plus, if you have a higher pressure you also use more energy.

Quote:Our locations (Tampa and Panama) are all about turning off the power, at times for days.

That must be terrible in the summer with no air conditioning. Unless you also have a back up generator.
Sleepster

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RE: Need advice for battery
(11-08-2024, 08:52 AM)Sleepster Wrote: Even with the humidifier set all the way up and the heated hose on? Some people do that. Plus, if you have a higher pressure you also use more energy.


That must be terrible in the summer with no air conditioning. Unless you also have a back up generator.

Jackery has a 30 day return policy, there are no caveats and they pay the shipping.
We've both run on a single unit, sharing, without any issue. You should be fine.

We both grew up without AC ... in Florida & the Republic of Panama, no worries.
However, we do have a portable system for the bedroom and generators to use.
Of course, if the outage is expected to last very long, we don't use the AC at all.
At that point, fuel becomes the Achilles heel & we are very conservative about it.
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