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Suggestions for a new mask
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Suggestions for a new mask
Does anyone have any suggestions for me regarding a new mask?

Here's my issue.....

My current mask is a Resmed Mirage softgel and this mask has serviced me well for a number of year but after loosing 53 pounds I'm not getting as good a seal as before when I had a fatter face.  I bought a Resmed Airfit N20 in the hope that this mask would be better but because I toss and turn all night long when I sleep on my side the mask would not say in place and would leak.  I've been told that because of my pressure, nasal pillows combined with the tossing and turning would not be optimal either.  So what is a good mask for someone that can't use nasal pillows and who tosses and turns all night long?

Thanks.
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
IDK what mask you should use but I also don't know why people say pillows are no good at higher pressure. I use nasal pillows with pressure up to 25cm. to my knowledge I don't get mask leaks but I do get lip leaks over about 13cm. a soft cervical collar takes care of most of these and it stops clusters of events. I sleep almost entirely on one side or the other. I also use a buckwheat pillow that is easily formed into whatever size/shape I want and which allows me to hang my face and mask over the edge of the bed pillow. because it's soft and pliable, the bed pillow doesn't push on the headgear to dislodge the mask. hanging your hose helps avoid that problem as well.
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
P10 Pillow Mask -- 4 - 20 cm h2o

Respironics DreamWear Gel Pillow -- 4 - 30 cm h2o

Fisher & Paykel Brevida Nasal Pillow -- 4 - 25 cm h2o

ResMed Swift™ FX Nasal Pillow -- 4 - 20 cm h2o

Philips Respironics Nuance Gel Nasal Pillow -- 4 - 20 cm h2o


So why can't you use nasal pillows?
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
moondoggy, I have experience like sheeplesses: my mask is a nasal pillows (AirFit P10); I sleep on my right side but move a bit during the night and occasionally turn over onto my left side.  I don't have many leaks from the mask; rather, my leaks are primarily through my mouth.  I've found that I can bury my face in my pillow (a very soft down) to the point the mask is half-buried without dislodging it.  (Well, occasionally I go too far but usually while I'm not in deep sleep.

Hope that helps.

Congrats on the weight-loss!   Dancing
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
As far as pillow masks I recommend the Resmed Airfit P10. For Full Face Mask I recommend the Resmed F20 Air Touch.
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
(09-07-2018, 08:05 PM)moondoggy Wrote: Does anyone have any suggestions for me regarding a new mask?

Here's my issue.....

My current mask is a Resmed Mirage softgel and this mask has serviced me well for a number of year but after loosing 53 pounds I'm not getting as good a seal as before when I had a fatter face.  I bought a Resmed Airfit N20 in the hope that this mask would be better but because I toss and turn all night long when I sleep on my side the mask would not say in place and would leak.  I've been told that because of my pressure, nasal pillows combined with the tossing and turning would not be optimal either.  So what is a good mask for someone that can't use nasal pillows and who tosses and turns all night long?

Thanks.

moondoggy, I suggest you consider the possibility that your pressure settings are too high, especially now that you have lost 53 pounds of body weight. A lower minimum pressure setting might allow you to sleep for most (or all) of the night with equally good control of your sleep apnea but with less leakage from your existing mask and possibly with less tossing and turning too. It might also let you successfully switch to a nasal pillows mask, such as the Resmed Airfit P10.

I personally experienced two years of APAP settings that were unnecessarily high (11 - 17) before I switched to a doctor who would listen to my complaints about shallow, rapid breathing. He discovered that my first doctor's office had set my machine so that the minimum pressure it delivered was almost the maximum I would ever need. Resetting the pressure settings to 6 - 13 caused a huge improvement in my sleeping experience, more relaxing  and with longer, deeper breaths.
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
I don't see why you couldn't use the P10 at your pressures.

I love the P10, and it has been the *best* mask I've tried as far as dealing with tossing & turning.

Give it a try! I bet you'll love it!

P.S. Great job on the weight loss! That's awesome!!!!!!! I've been working on the same, and have lost half that. Reading what Opinecone wrote, that makes me consider that pressures may need to be re-evaluated.
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RE: Suggestions for a new mask
Firstly, congrats on your weight loss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Another vote for the Respironics DreamWear Gel Pillow (used to use the Swift FX and like the Dreamwear a bit more) and I have the head gear so loose that I can put my entire hand under it. I have ZERO leaks and flop around like a fish on deck. My pressure was 15-18 and is now 13-15 after my most recent sleep study. With both I had no leaks. The other recommendations I have not tried so can't comment. What I like about the Dreamwear Gel Pillows are that each pillow is like a mini Mirage Activa in how it feels and works.

Also look at your hose management. Consider a hose lift if you don't already use one. I also like to use a hose cover. It adds some weight to the hose and keeps it from flipping due to its own flexing when turned or twisted.
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