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Which one of these is best for bipap? - BunnyMummy - 03-25-2020
Looking to hire a bipap to see if it helps my son, after his trial was cancelled yesterday
We can't afford to buy outright and I can't find anything on ebay UK.
Looking at hiring from here, but they don't have Resmed or Phillips.
Which of these are the best bet for downloading data to Oscar?
The cheaper the better as we don't know if it will help or not.
He needs a humidifier and auto bipap.
Thank you
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RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - Sleeprider - 03-25-2020
In this difficult time with the pandemic, it is going to be very hard to keep appointments with doctors or to do sleep studies. The link to a commercial entity like or DME"sleep-tight in UK" that rents CPAP or BiPAP is not allowed by our rules, however looking at the choices, I am not familiar with most of the brands, and the ones I recognize are second-tier. Hoffrichter, Respcare, Resmart, Respircare, Sepray, and the Fisher Pakel Sleepcute is very expensive. None of these is supported by open source software like OSCAR and the rental rates seem very high. I'd really rather see you look elaewhere at machines that are supported in software so you can monitor the therapy. I know money is tight, but for about 10-12 months of rent, you could buy the Resmed S9 VPAP S or VPAP auto from Supplier #2.
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - srlevine1 - 03-26-2020
You do not say why the trial was canceled or if your child did not exhibit symptoms severe enough to maintain coverage or use of the machine. I would suggest you speak with the appropriate doctor before you engage in treating your child.
I am not suggesting that you should not be proactive, but experimenting with your child may be ill-advised.
I can see you are in the UK where the rules are different under your National Health program. I wish you and your child the best of luck.
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - BunnyMummy - 03-26-2020
Thank you Sleeprider. My concern is the postage cost to UK, will find out what that is, and customs charges. In the UK we don't pay tax on medical equipment but no idea how this works for importing.
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - jaswilliams - 03-26-2020
(03-26-2020, 03:39 AM)BunnyMummy Wrote: Thank you Sleeprider. My concern is the postage cost to UK, will find out what that is, and customs charges. In the UK we don't pay tax on medical equipment but no idea how this works for importing.
On import you need to allow about 20% charge for duty and handling charges
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - Sleeprider - 03-26-2020
I don't know if importing a "gently used" machine might reduce the potential taxes. The best bet is to call Supplier #2. They are very good on the phone and have a lot of experience in export. Many members of this forum across the World have used them to save substantial money over what devices cost in their countries, and SecondwindCPAP has demonstrated a very high level of service and warranty to new and used machines that are exported.
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - BunnyMummy - 03-26-2020
Thank you we have gone ahead and ordered from number two!
Ironic that if I had known how things would go I could have done this 6 weeks ago rather than wait for an appointment that hasn't happened and save a lot of stress, oh to have a crystal ball!
I can't post the results from my sons psg on here, as I have run out of allowance for attachments. The notes at the bottom when I got a copy said he has periodic limb movements preceded by episodes of shallow breathing that don't qualify to be scored. I'm guessing (that's all it is a guess) he breathes shallowly, then wakes, then hyperventilation occurs as he wakes up. Geer1 has compared his sleep from Oscar on the night to the study which proves he was awake during hyperventilation. I didn't think to do this!
As appointments for just about anything are cancelled now, we may as well try this and see how we get on, nothing to loose only money on the never never, and can always sell on.
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - BunnyMummy - 03-26-2020
(03-26-2020, 01:22 AM)srlevine1 Wrote: You do not say why the trial was canceled or if your child did not exhibit symptoms severe enough to maintain coverage or use of the machine. I would suggest you speak with the appropriate doctor before you engage in treating your child.
I am not suggesting that you should not be proactive, but experimenting with your child may be ill-advised.
I can see you are in the UK where the rules are different under your National Health program. I wish you and your child the best of luck.
There is another very lengthy thread on here about our woes, it was cancelled because of the coronavirus, we don't really know if it will help or not as we can't get a definite diagnosis of what is going on yet...
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - Sleeprider - 03-26-2020
Congrats on getting the new machine I think the investment is much better than renting a secondary brand at the prices from your link. You are not the first to find the NHS is a system designed to limit healthcare rather than improve it, although essential services are available to everyone.
Regarding Attachment space, you are a "preferred member" as explained here http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-Membership-Levels-explained Preferred Members have unlimited attachment space, but file sizes are limited to 700 kilobytes for image files and 1 MB for other file types (see attachment chart here).
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You should have adequate attachment space, provided the attachment meets the size limits. If not, let me know.
Good luck with the new machine. At the pressures being used by your son, it should be more comfortable and support his ventilation demands. ; We can pick up the discussion of the specifics in that therapy thread.
RE: Which one of these is best for bipap? - jaswilliams - 03-26-2020
BunnyMummy watch your phone and emails for a message from the carrier for a web link to pay the import duties when the machine arrives in the UK. The duty is based on 20% of the purchase price declared by Supplier #2 plus and assumed postage cost and a handling fee. If paid promptly it does not delay the shipping in any way.