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AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - cathyf - 08-12-2021 Ok, maybe this isn't exactly me firing him, maybe it's more me trying to light a fire under him. Although when they read it I expect that the most likely response will be to ignore it, and the less likely response will be for them to fire me as a patient! I decided to format this as a correction to my chart, as that is something that they are specifically required to pay attention to, and the notes that they are making in my chart are what are making clear that they are not really paying attention to what I've been telling them and certainly not paying attention to what my cpap machine could tell them. I would welcome any editorial advice from you guys! Quote:I would like to make several updates, clarifications, and corrections to my chart. I'm also planning to attach a PDF document with selected annotated OSCAR screen shots. --- so what do you think? RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - SarcasticDave94 - 08-12-2021 It might work, but it sounds like doc has an ego and won't even bother. Saying this as I'm sure you've tried to get action and treatment before... Similar to getting sleep studies, PAP scripts, etc. try your primary doc and give this doc gimpy or whatever his name is the short version of your letter but edited slightly to my editor version. Feel free to quote me word for word. It's free. Here it is. "Doctor Gimpy you're fired. Bye bye." Why say that, Dave? You're not getting anywhere, past, present or future, basically forever with gimpy. Just be polite and cut off boat payments and at least your headaches get a bit better. Practice saying that phrase a few times, you'll feel better already. RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - Sleeprider - 08-12-2021 Spittin' into the wind. I think if you're going to bother to write, make your complaints clear. Your doctor doesn't value your input, and this letter is just more input he doesn't care about. RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - factor - 08-12-2021 I would just ask you. Serious question not being funny. What do you think he will say? If you think he is already open to it. He will take it well. If you already have a feel for his demeanor you are already correct about it. If you have a bad feeling at all you should start looking.. A doctors demeanor (Bed Side Manor) is very important. The very first time I go see a new doc I only judge them on their attitude. I use the talk test. I talk to them about my medical issues, I also ask them about football, where they are from, how many kids do you have, where they went to school, and other general NON medical stuff. I have had some that sit and talk. Other just get up and end the convo quickly and leave.. The ones that won't talk or seem nervous to leave I don't go back. I keep looking. I mean if they wont talk about (enter you sport here) football...what good are they.. We make finding a doctor too complicated. If you dont like them you dont like them... RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - OpalRose - 08-12-2021 Believe me, he'll roll his eyes as he's reading, that's if he bothers to read it in its entirety. Most "so called" sleep doctors only do this as a side "gig" to whatever their profession is. My doctor is a Pulmonologist and sleep medicine is an extra for him. He listens to me half heartedly and after all is said and done, he scratches his head and reverts back to my AHI being under 1. He doesn't see any issues, therefore I have nothing to complain about. He does, however love to talk about himself... his diet, his retirement plans, his dog... RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - theunk - 08-12-2021 What exactly are you trying to accomplish? I think most of us start to realize that our sleep situation is very unique. At best you get diagnosed early, get the correct therapy, then reach out to sites like this to gain further insite. Without parking you in a Level 1 poly chamber every night for a couple of weeks, no one can can come close to understanding what you are experiencing - at a level they can relate to. Even then, the impact of any activity in your external sleeping environment cannot be duplicated or evaluated. The best I can expect from my MD is acknowledgment of my condition, maybe one more sleep lab experience before I cease needing air at all. I finally have a new pulmonary specialist and my first assessment was via telephone. He confirmed that he was certainly available if I noticed any significant changes, but for now my data suggested I was coping well with current therapy. You have more real time knowledge of your condition and you appear to be on top of your situation. Like me you can post real time experiences on this and other forums and get real time feedback. I am quite sure there are some truly engaged medical professionals participating. The minute you start telling your professional how you should be treated is the minute you no longer require his/her services. Should something serious change make sure you have a contingency. Don RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - Crimson Nape - 08-12-2021 Ask yourself just how much do you contribute to his/her total income. I'm willing to bet that the doctor is financially able to tell you to take a hike. In order to get his attention, you need to target one or both of his "weak" spots, Licensing and/or Finances. Wishing you the best in your effort. Good luck! RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - Cpapian - 08-12-2021 I'll come at this from an editorial perspective....What do you want from him? Because that wasn't clear to me. First, I respectfully disagree with Factor. I accept that time is money for a doctor and therefore don't expect or engage in small talk. To this end, I try to get to the point quickly. IMO this improves compression. Eg .... I am concerned about my lack of restorative sleep and the negative impact on my life. As such, I have endeavored to understand my specific issues and to help myself. I have managed a few tweaks that have been successful. To further my improvement I would like you to consider the following: Your first point goes on at length about family members, which confused me until I got to the end. I doubt a doctor would have the patience to get that far. Start with what you want .... then explain why you think this may be the missing part of your diagnosis and path to refreshing sleep. Eg..... I would like to be evaluated for xx. After researching and observing family members I believe I may have xx Your second point, I don't see where you want anything. Do you want your file to be updated to indicate you use a vauto? Same for third and fourth points ...? What do you want to happen? If you use Microsoft Word it has a feature to analyze the grade level readability of a document. The lower the grade the better the readability. Usually short sentences improve readability. Anyways, I hope this is helpful to you. I understand you pain. RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - mrmagloo - 08-12-2021 I tend to agree with the others.... If you feel that he is doing that poor of a job overseeing and managing your health, I wouldn't put a single second of effort in trying to improve the bozo. The things you are referring to as failures are personal value attributes that seldom can be positively affected. He obviously doesn't care. I would immediately find another doctor. In my case, I felt the same about my 'Nationally Recognized' Pioneer in the industry and fired him 15 years ago, when I found him to be more of a hinderance than a help, and was only looking at my AHI and compliance. Any frigging idiot can do that, so why put my health in his hands. I want someone who feels compelled to encouraging an open discussion all variables, or concerns I might have without getting the sense that my input is irrelevant. Your health should be a joint effort and partnership. Vote with your dollars. RE: AB friends -- help me fire my sleep doc? - Deborah K. - 08-12-2021 I agree with Dave: "Doctor Gimpy you're fired. Bye bye." I wouldn't waste another minute on this guy. |