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RE: afib and sleep apnea - poppypete - 06-19-2018 (06-17-2018, 02:57 PM)poppypete Wrote:(06-16-2018, 04:18 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: In terms of SpO2 you're doing great. Your AHI is not bad. The pattern of obstruction appears like positional apnea and events seem to be confined to a fairly short period(s) of time. If you are still using the c-collar, just try to keep that positioned properly, and maybe we should expect that your AHI of 2-4 is just okay as long as you are feeling pretty good. Your heart rate is not spiking and you no longer have O2 issues, so this treatment is helping you to heal, and we probably need to give that time. Sleeprider and Jason... re: "as an education I see it as worthwhile question to ask and be answered." As I'm now obviously well into positive territory, thanks to the tweeking of settings help Sleeprider you are giving me, I'd just like to grasp (if either of you can help), why my graphs show up close, what is here (attached): Last night, 90min after mask on, in 9min, 5 hypopnea are followed by a short 13sec unclassified apnea, only one...and that only 1 of 2 only for the night. Within that almost 7hrs session, the further 90min which followed the initial free-from-activity 90min period of slumber, was all the night's 'activity' we review and concern ourselves with, which is not countered by the machine on current settings. Then 2hrs of 'no-activity' sleep (at least none because the machine does its job). What is this close-up telling me??? Should I expect still more improvement over more time, or be content with where I'm now at??? Is it
Thanks for your comments, as always...poppypete SleepyHead: The last time you used your ResMed CS PaceWave... was last night (on 19 June 2018) You had an AHI of 4.45, which is considered technically "treated" You machine was on for 6 hours, 58 minutes and 0 seconds. You had a small but acceptable amount of major mask leakage. Your EPAP pressure was under 12.36cmH2O for 90% of the time. Your IPAP pressure was under 18.16cmH2O for 90% of the time. No oximetery data has been imported yet. On my Windows10 MedView .dat file from my ChoiceMMed MD300W314 oximetry reader, the SpO2 levels were above 90% and well up above 96% most of the time. ResScan scored me 100% on their 4 parameters of
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RE: afib and sleep apnea - Sleeprider - 06-19-2018 Although the total number of hypopnea events are up, the UA is just about gone here. I'd like to hold off on pressure changes until I see you try the soft cervical collar/ stop snore or similar positional therapy. Most of your therapy time is quiet and uneventful, and this pattern of hypopnea and apnea events, just over one-hour in is becoming very familiar. Something you probably didn't notice is your I:E ratio is in the normal range with longer expiratory time. All hypopnea in your last chart are marked as 10 second, which is the minimum for Resmed to flag hypopnea, and may be due to the larger flows that precede them. Resmed flags hypopnea based on a 30% reduction in flow for at least 10 seconds as compared to the 120 seconds prior to the event. While I'd like to see your respiration smooth out, what I'm saying is that these hypopnea may be non-events. RE: afib and sleep apnea - poppypete - 06-20-2018 (06-19-2018, 02:23 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: Although the total number of hypopnea events are up, the UA is just about gone here. I'd like to hold off on pressure changes until I see you try the soft cervical collar/ stop snore or similar positional therapy. Most of your therapy time is quiet and uneventful, and this pattern of hypopnea and apnea events, just over one-hour in is becoming very familiar.Sleeprider... Before I go back to bed at this, my early hour time, having had my camomile and downloading this excellent result (keeping my c-collar on still, which tends to force me to nose breathe)...I only this early morning note your edit addition of yesterday (2nd para above). Consequently, I've attached the graph to show you again the I:E ratio data of last night's 2 sessions (so far)...for your further consideration and comment. The possibility that "these hypopnea may be non-events" and the (seemingly) immediate success of the effect of the c-collar is quite exciting (at least to me!). Mate (as us Aussies call a friend)..."you are a genius!!!" Cheers...poppypete RE: afib and sleep apnea - poppypete - 06-20-2018 Sleeprider... I was able to doze off, in spite of feeling refreshed and euphoric, for this further result (attached)...to conclude my night's sleepy-time. Cheers... poppypete. RE: afib and sleep apnea - Sleeprider - 06-20-2018 Well I was beginning to doubt we'd ever see the day! Congrats on the great results. This is what we were shooting for. Sorry it took so long. RE: afib and sleep apnea - poppypete - 06-21-2018 (06-20-2018, 02:04 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: Well I was beginning to doubt we'd ever see the day! Congrats on the great results. This is what we were shooting for. Sorry it took so long. Sleeprider... This 'great result' continues for another night, thank you once again: 1st session 4hr 37min 0.00 AHI 2nd session 1hr 37min 1.38 AHI (2H) 3rd session (resting before rising, fully refreshed...to watch Argintina vs Croata) 43min 1.39 AHI (1H) Average overall .44 AHI (<.5 = <point 5, not just <5) Oximetry data showing up very well too...high levels of SpO2% and a more resting, less volatile heartbeat in spite of the Afib still. Very healing feelings, thank you Tom. Cheers...poppypete RE: afib and sleep apnea - Sleeprider - 06-21-2018 Mate, you're killing it! What a great outcome for you. Has your doctor had a comment? What amazes me, is the breakthrough was just a small increase in EPAP min. RE: afib and sleep apnea - poppypete - 06-21-2018 (06-21-2018, 04:41 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: Mate, you're killing it! What a great outcome for you. Has your doctor had a comment? Sleeprider... re: "Has your doctor had a comment?" Not yet...I thought I'd drop him a note today. As a matter for your comment, I got the impression when I last consulted with him, that with the eventual resolution of the Afib, he's not totally convinced I'm finished with a CPAP auto machine as against this ASV trial which is obviously working...as is the c-collar!!! In light of latest outcomes, what do you think??? Early days, as I'm only in the first week of Warfarin now at the optimum level to dissolve any potential clot. Yes, it is a great outcome and a huge relief after some months of struggle. I can't stress enough however, how great it was to have someone like you working almost daily with me though, so it's a great result for both of us. Cheers... poppypete RE: afib and sleep apnea - Sleeprider - 06-21-2018 How you feel counts. Are you seriously considering a return to CPAP? Your choice if you choose to mention the use of the C-collar, but maybe sometime in the future, it's something to talk about so he knows it might help his other patients...they don't teach this stuff in school. If I was in your place, they would have to pry my asv from my cold dead hands. There is no comparison. RE: afib and sleep apnea - poppypete - 06-21-2018 (06-21-2018, 05:51 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: How you feel counts. Are you seriously considering a return to CPAP? Your choice if you choose to mention the use of the C-collar, but maybe sometime in the future, it's something to talk about so he knows it might help his other patients...they don't teach this stuff in school. Sleeprider... re: "Are you seriously considering a return to CPAP?" No...but I was interested in your thoughts on the impression I gained from him...at my last consultation. Your latest thoughts will help me frame my communication to him, as I'm probably going to have to make a decision on buying an ASV before the cardioversion... ...as my current machine is merely on loan from CPAP. re: "Your choice if you choose to mention the use of the C-collar, but maybe sometime in the future, it's something to talk about so he knows it might help his other patients...they don't teach this stuff in school." I'll do that (mention its success), and with the CPAP folk and my sleep test helper too. re: "How you feel counts." That's the point, isn't it? My doctor sees that too, so he'll support that view...as he too says, "it's not just about the numbers"...it is about how I'm feeling during the day. Cheers... poppypete. |