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RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - Trasto - 09-26-2024

Hello. I don't really think that a new sleep study would say anything new that I don't know, since, as I said, I suffocate if I don't sleep with CPAP, as soon as I fall asleep.

Also, they couldn't do a new study, because I wouldn't be able to sleep, I would just suffer.

I have a hypothesis: after losing weight, the tissues of the palate, uvula, tongue, throat, etc. have become "loose", so that, despite being thin, the structures of the mouth and throat fall and collapse completely and don't let me breathe as soon as I relax and sleep.

I really appreciate the idea and the advice, because in other circumstances, doing another sleep study would be the most logical step to follow.

Greetings and thank you very much!

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - SeePak - 09-26-2024

I have lots to add, but first....

Have you tried Breathwork?

Check out Patrick McKeown.

You can get some noticeable results quickly with simple breathing exercises.

Anxiety is one symptom that can have a huge reduction when breathing properly.

Hope you try that out.

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - SeePak - 09-26-2024

Also, EPR was meant as a comfort tool.

you must make sure that your pressure using CPAP DOES NOT DROP BELOW your prescription level from your sleep study!

What was the titration pressure that eliminated OA, obstructive events.

IF, as your personal stats suggest, 9 cm is that point, then EPR must never drop pressure below that point during your exhale!

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - SeePak - 09-26-2024

Also Trasto, as for falling asleep with or without CPAP.....

Athough we have vastly different bodies and experiences, falling asleep is easy for me, dont know why.

I do practice good sleep hygiene, no TV bluelight before bed is a big one.
Need to get the mind to slow done at sleep time!
Breathing exercises will help that I'm sure for you.

And...

I have been tryin to sleep WITHOUT CPAP lately, and i have been able to no problem!
Thats why i have been doing Breathing Exercises, to enable me to regain control over all the various breathing muscles, including the diaphragm!

And...

Just last night i fell asleep , while doing those breathing exercises @ 2115 hrs, 9:15 PM
I awoke at 12 am and actually felt great!

However, i put my CPAP machine on and slept mostly right thru i think, until about 5 am, 0500 hrs

And i feel great this morning!

My goal is to get rid of the CPAP.

And I am finding that others are doing that!

Through Breathwork!!!

That's why those of us on this website, and using CPAP have a problem in the first place!
We started to breathe incorrectly at some point in our lives.
Anxiety, Stress etc. etc.
Mouth breathing, big problem!

Hope you can join me, and others, on our quest to get our liberation from this device ( which has helped for the most part while we have the sleep apnea)

And i'm pretty sure that with a modest amount of knowledge about Breathwork and doing some exercises, you can at least have better sleep WITH CPAP.

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - Trasto - 09-26-2024

Sé algo sobre el método Buteyko.

Tengo un libro de Patrick Mckeown, 'El poder del oxígeno'.

Seguiré tu consejo, leeré el libro y pondré en práctica algunos de los ejercicios.


¡Muchas gracias!

***  Moderator Note: Google Translation  ***
Quote:I know something about the Buteyko method.

I have a book by Patrick Mckeown, 'The Power of Oxygen'.

I will follow your advice, read the book and try some of the exercises.

Thank you very much!
As per Rule #4 - All posts must be made in the English language. Please use a translation service, like Google Translate.


RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - SeePak - 09-26-2024

Buena Suerte !

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - Trasto - 10-01-2024

Thanks, Deborah K.

Here I attach a screenshot with OSCAR's graphs.

I'm happy because there are only two apneas and there is very little leak (I still have the tape on my mouth when I sleep), but I don't understand why my A-CPAP starts increasing the pressure, in the absence of apnea, from 3:30 a.m. to 3:40 a.m.

And I guess I keep waking up, maybe because of the apneas, maybe because of the pressure, because I'm sleepy all day long.

What can we improve regarding those graphs?

Thanks for your help!
(09-26-2024, 10:05 AM)SeePak Wrote: Buena Suerte !

Thanks, seePak!! Smile

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - Deborah K. - 10-03-2024

Your flow limits are still pretty high, even using the level 3 EPR.  This happened to me much further along in my therapy, and SleepRider helped me get a ResMed Aircurve 10 Vauto, a bilevel machine to replace my ResMed AirSense 10 Autopap machine which you now use.  It has made my therapy and comfort much better.  In case you are interested, here's a link to my long thread about this:

https://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-Flow-Limits-How-to-Upgrade-CPAP-to-Bilevel?highlight=flow+limits+bilevel

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - SeePak - 10-03-2024

Bringing your max pressure down to 15 would help and it may even be able to go lower just got to watch over time how that reacts.
ResMed has the most aggressive changes as per Dr. Noah.
Ideally I'd like to see no Auto at all, fixed pressure pick what you think is the right number see where you settle out and then see if you need to play with anything else

RE: I can't sleep without using CPAP - Trasto - 10-04-2024

(10-03-2024, 02:48 PM)Deborah K. Wrote: Your flow limits are still pretty high, even using the level 3 EPR.  This happened to me much further along in my therapy, and SleepRider helped me get a ResMed Aircurve 10 Vauto, a bilevel machine to replace my ResMed AirSense 10 Autopap machine which you now use.  It has made my therapy and comfort much better.  In case you are interested, here's a link to my long thread about this:

https://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-Flow-Limits-How-to-Upgrade-CPAP-to-Bilevel?highlight=flow+limits+bilevel
Hi! I have a few questions regarding the Resmed AirCurve. 

Is it also automatic like the AirSense, or is it bilevel but with fixed levels? For me, switching from a CPAP to an AutoCPAP was a big improvement. I wouldn't want to go back to CPAP mode with a fixed air pressure. 

My other question is related to the setup. Is it complicated to set up the AirCurve? 

Thanks in advance!