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RE: Soaps for cleaning? - Mutineer - 06-07-2015
The Clinicians at my sleep clinic recommend hand wash [pump pack], works very well I find, they say the main reason for washing your mask especially everyday is to remove the oil that our pores exude which can cause "seal" problems if not removed.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - sonicboom - 06-07-2015
Nasal pillows - using baby shampoo daily. No issues.
Tank and tubing - DME recommended water:vinegar ratio 9:1. I do a soap clean/rinse then a vinegar clean/rinse. Hang dry. I like the idea of using a dedicated plastic basin to cleaning Cpap equipment -just haven't gotten to the store yet. Has anyone found one more practical for this purpose than another?
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - AlanE - 06-07-2015
(06-07-2015, 07:37 AM)Veilsd Wrote: Its in the Clinician manual sorry. It says "remove any white powder deposits using a solution of one part household vinegar to
10 parts water". Cleaning with mild soap or detergent still applies.
Ah, I didn't look in there. Seems that would be a very diluted mix but okay I'm not a chemist.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - MobileBasset - 06-07-2015
VINEGAR
Household vinegar is dilute acetic acid, usually 3-9 % acetic acid. It is very mild and there is no danger is using it straight out of the bottle but that is not necessary, wasteful and smelly. (After all we eat it all the time straight in salads) It can be used as an antibacterial for many food born pathogens, like E. coli but mostly it is used in the CPAP world as a dissolver of hard water deposits. That is why you see it recommended for the humidifier chambers. You can wash your equipment using soap and water to remove oils and gunk but you should rinse before using the vinegar solution. If you mix the vinegar with things other than water you may degrade the acidic characteristic, the pH, and thus the deposit dissolving ability. I use distilled vinegar for this purpose as some of the other versions (like apple cider vinegar) have unwanted fruit solids.
A 1% solution is often recommended so depending on how strong your vinegar is that could mean adding anywhere from 2 parts water up to 8 parts water. I feel no need to be precise.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - Frogman812 - 06-07-2015
I lived in southern Utah when diagnosed and supplied with my equipment. The DME provider gave the boiler plate speech about cleaning with vinegar, but the sleep clinic staff gave far differing directions. The clinic supervisor said the local culinary water contained a red algae that loved and actually thrived in vinegar. She reported witnessing algae blooms in humidifier chambers when cleaned with vinegar. That explained the red staining on the bottom of our shower curtains and their annual replacement. The water was extremely hard as well, and doing without a water softener was out of the question. I have never used vinegar even-though I now reside in northern Utah. Maybe I'll experiment with vinegar and my old humidifier chamber after buying a new replacement.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - Mosquitobait - 06-08-2015
Frogman, if the local algae loves vinegar, then you'd do better with some kind of base for cleaning. I think I used baking soda in that instance when cleaning fish tanks. However, dishwashing liquid should still work.
As far as washing these things, since I have to do my brother's as well, I moved from the bathroom sink to the kitchen sink rather than buy a special container. Handles the hoses way better anyway. I still hang the hoses in the bathroom to drip and dry.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - Frogman812 - 06-08-2015
Mosquito, I also use the kitchen sink for weekly cleaning, but use Lysol. I use hand soap for the daily mask cleaning, when I remember that is. I recently bought some Control III and will try that instead of the Lysol. If I don't get the Lysol/water ratio and soak time right, the scent bothers me for several nights. I've also considered making a batch of Star San mixed with distilled water. I use Star San to sterilize bottles and equipment during the honey harvest. Now if I could get a soap that smells like honey and beeswax, I'd be in heaven. The base (baking soda) idea to combat the algae sounds like a plan as well.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - sonicboom - 06-08-2015
Kitchen sink for washing equipment may be risky depending on how you use your sink and clean it during the day. From other sources one gleans that there’s more E. coli in a kitchen sink than in a toilet after you flush it. The sink is a great place for E. coli to live and grow since it’s wet and moist. Bacteria feed on the food that people put down the drain and what’s left on dishes in the sink. That’s probably why dogs drink out of the toilet—because there’s less E. coli in it. Personally, i like the thought of a seperate dedicated plastic basin.
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - me50 - 06-09-2015
I have a separate plastic bin for cleaning my supplies. I can't let my hose drip dry in the bathroom though. Even if someone closes the toilet lid, water still travels outside the toilet bowl. I don't want what travels on the outside or inside of my hose
RE: Soaps for cleaning? - Frogman812 - 06-09-2015
Sonic,
While a separate and dedicated basin might be a best practice, I must be doing something right as I've washed my and my wife's gear in the kitchen sink for five plus years without an infection. We don't own dish sponges as they are the true bacteria factories. Additionally, my dogs don't drink out of the toilet which may be due to keeping the lid closed.
