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RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - jaswilliams - 02-18-2018

The centrals are likely to reduce over time as your body gets used to the new settings. Or they may be caused by the raise in EPR. Leave the settings where they are for now and see how the figures work out over the next few nights. Once you get over the Gastris we may look at tweeks to reduce you figures lower but it will be small changes.


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - Sleeprider - 02-18-2018

EPR can create few CA events until you get used to the change, those events are usually very short and not disruptive to sleep like obstructive apnea or hypopnea. This is a pretty good start, and I'm sure the CA events will slowly diminish. More importantly this should help avoid the aerophagia.


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - MikeBear - 02-18-2018

Ok then, it seems like a consensus. I'll leave things set where they are at present, and see what happens over a period of time.

I did read (I have been reading and studying many threads) that centrals can be caused by "washing out" a little too much C02, which causes your body to not take a breath as it doesn't think you need one. So, it makes sense that your body will eventually get used to that and things resolve some.


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - MikeBear - 02-19-2018

Things are looking good. Last night instead of wearing my homemade "pap-cap" chin strap to keep my jaw up and lips closed, I taped my mouth shut and used my soft collar. I also changed my pillows a bit, and raised them again slightly. I feel MUCH better this morning, but did still have some new Aerophagia. The last two centrals of the night are definitely phony, as I was awake then but still laying in bed a few minutes longer. Flow Limits are staying much better also!


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RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - Sleeprider - 02-19-2018

Feel free to move minimum pressure to 9.0 and maximum to 12.0. You're doing well and have really narrowed down your pressure needs.


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - ajack - 02-19-2018

(02-17-2018, 08:14 PM)MikeBear Wrote:
(02-17-2018, 06:20 PM)ajack Wrote: Your AHI is good, I would work on the leaks and the Aerophagia
Half the time you are over the median 11.7 and I think is when the Aerophagia would be happening, I would be tempted to choke the max pressure back a bit, with the 95% at 13.7, I'd try 13-13.4 and see if that helped. I would even be tempted to try 12.6 If the OA and H rise too much and it doesn't help the gas, you can increase it back to 14. When the gas is sorted, you might like to raise this a bit and have it 2cm above the 95% number, to give the machine room to move.

This may not help, but it can't hurt.
As well as putting the head of the bed on bricks, so the bed was on a slope. I found a change of diet helped my GERD. It's worth googling: GERD low carb
When the valve at the top of the stomach isn't inflamed and scared by acid, it seals better.

Thanks! See posts 53 and 54 in this thread. We discovered that my Airfit P10 mask reads at least 8.40 higher leak baseline really being zero 0 baseline on my particular Airsense 10 machine. Apparently this happens in certain cases. I confirmed this by replacing my hose with a brand new one (to make sure there were no microleaks from it), and then wearing the mask while I was wide awake and making sure there were NO mask leaks. Yet it still read high. So at least that amount has to be subtracted from the leak numbers. Last night was a bit of an anomaly, as pressures shot higher, and I was a little more restless (I think I rolled on my face as I lost my belly pillow which stops that) which probably caused the slightly higher leaks than normal for me.

Also GERD, yep, I have it due to a hiatal hernea. I take Pepcid every night for it. It's usually very well controlled. However it seems to have also gone into a bit of Gastritis now because of the aerophagia. I also have asthma and chronic bronchitis (so that version of COPD) I have to sleep with my head raised on several pillows, as when I lay flat, my AHI hits the roof and I can't easily breath in that position anyway. I've also had a septoplasty, UPPP, and turbinate reduction after my original sleep study. So I am not surprised at all that Flow Limitations tend to now be driving my pressures. I wasn't on an autoset machine all these years though, or data capable to tell me. I stayed too complacent all these years, and never followed what was going on with cpap therapy until now. I'm also a bit OCD, so now that I've decided to pay attention to that, I literally can't stop until I've got it figured out and tweaked as best it can be for me. But I'm obviously pushing it too fast.

For tonight, I'm going to keep pressure where it is, but UP the EPR from 2 to 3 as Sleeprider mentioned and see what happens. If the Aerophagia acts up a bit again tonight, I'll try your suggestions.
I'm glad the leaks are wrong.
I really would try lifting the head of the bed 4-6" on bricks, so you sleep on a slope. It will also help keeping your stomach out of your chest, depending how big the hernia is. You may want to consider an op, the associated problems only got worse for my dad. Due to other health issues, he isn't able to have the op now.


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - MikeBear - 02-20-2018

Last nights AHI rating with the new lower pressures of 9 - 12 EPR 3 isn't quite as good as the night before with the slightly higher pressures. I think maybe I rolled on my back a little too much from my normal left side sleeping. Still not bad though, and the Aerophagia/Gastritis issue is MUCH better.

I'm going to leave things here, and see what develops. Perhaps I'll get used to it and things will even out, perhaps eventually I'll need to slightly raise the pressures again. Anyway, I'm satisfied for now. That was quite the almost TWO MONTHS adventure so far dealing with a new machine, and new mask!


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - Sleeprider - 02-20-2018

Mike, I had a crappy night by the numbers, but according to the fitness watch I wear, I had just over 3-hours of deep sleep in 7:41.  My AHI of 1.81 is uncommonly high for me, but I felt fine.  Our results are pretty similar, and what I'd like you to take away from this is, it's okay to have a few events spread through the night.  It doesn't mean anything because we're here for the long-run.

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RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - MikeBear - 02-20-2018

I understand better now over this whole thread, thanks!

What is that fitness watch that you wear that can tell about your sleep?


RE: Excited! Getting new (to me) cpap machine today after 20 years! - Sleeprider - 02-20-2018

I have a Garmin Vivoactive2 HR which is selling for about $159. It tracks a lot of things, and can motivate you to a higher level of activity. It also tracks sleep stage, by motion and heart rate. There seems to be a strong correlation, at least for me, of how rested I feel and the amount of deep sleep. Less than 2-hours and I really feel it. Over 2.5-3 hours and I feel pretty good. Anyway, I'm mostly using to to ensure I don't sit around too much, and to exercise within heart rate target zones. It also produces maps of my bike rides and skiing. Maybe I'll upgrade to Apple Watch someday, but this gives some useful information.