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new lung problems - jxyzobrien - 05-07-2016
was struggling with nasal mask. got chin strap thought maybe i was leaking
thru mouth at night. did not help i woke like i did not have oxygen for
days
so i went to pulmonary doc. He said previously my lung capacity 8 of 10.
So he tested me yesterday. I lung capacity was now 6 of 10.
SO he gave me lung shot and treatment which really did not help
much
he also wrote a new script for machine since it seems like i am not getting
enough air.
old setting was 14 now he did 16.
he said settings are 4 to 25 for resmed machine. so i guess i go back to
rotech and they change settings
any ideas are suggestions are welcome
running out of ideas.
RE: new lung problems - Sleeprider - 05-07-2016
Take a look at your results and let us know what your Sleepyhead data show for average/90% Tidal Volume, Minute Vent, and possibly insp and exp time. Also, are you using EPR on your machine? What setting?
Generally a higher pressure by itself will not significantly affect tidal volume or minute vent, however increased pressure support (or in your case EPR) can improve the ventilation rate. Normally a doctor knows that if the tidal volume is below expectations, it is pressure support that corrects that problem, and this may be a rationale for making bilevel medically necessary.
RE: new lung problems - kwhenrykerr - 05-07-2016
Do you know what a "Lung Shot" is ? I just started to use a recording oxygen thing to sleep with and its alarm is set to 88. Last night was the first time I used it. 113 alarm events in 4 hours of sleep. Any info about the shot may help, thanks.
RE: new lung problems - jxyzobrien - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 11:32 AM)Sleeprider Wrote: Take a look at your results and let us know what your Sleepyhead data show for average/90% Tidal Volume, Minute Vent, and possibly insp and exp time. Also, are you using EPR on your machine? What setting?
Generally a higher pressure by itself will not significantly affect tidal volume or minute vent, however increased pressure support (or in your case EPR) can improve the ventilation rate. Normally a doctor knows that if the tidal volume is below expectations, it is pressure support that corrects that problem, and this may be a rationale for making bilevel medically necessary.
So where and how do i insert chip into sleeprider software to get results.
I know nothing about sleeprider.
RE: new lung problems - justMongo - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 01:49 PM)jxyzobrien Wrote: So where and how do i insert chip into sleeprider sleepyhead software to get results.
I know nothing about sleeprider sleepyhead.
You get sleepyhead here:
[url]http://OSCAR Official Download Page ----> CLICK HERE ./[/url]
Install it on your computer. You use a card reader to read the card and display results in sleepyhead.
You can read Robysue's guide to sleepyhead at:
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php?title=Beginner%27s_Guide_to_SleepyHead
RE: new lung problems - Sleeprider - 05-07-2016
(05-07-2016, 01:58 PM)justMongo Wrote:(05-07-2016, 01:49 PM)jxyzobrien Wrote: So where and how do i insert chip into sleeprider sleepyhead software to get results.
I know nothing about sleeprider sleepyhead.
You get sleepyhead here:
[url]http://OSCAR Official Download Page ----> CLICK HERE ./[/url]
Install it on your computer. You use a card reader to read the card and display results in sleepyhead.
You can read Robysue's guide to sleepyhead at:
http://www.apneaboard.com/wiki/index.php?title=Beginner%27s_Guide_to_SleepyHead
Thanks to Justmongo for clarifying! Also, once you are able to see your data in Sleepyhead, it tracks important information about your respiratory volume (unless you have the S9 Escape which does not produce data), the elite and autoset models give you all the information. We can see when and how frequently, from the data, you have insufficient respiration. It also helps to see the other apnea events.
RE: new lung problems - Sleeprider - 05-07-2016
I want to be clearer. I think it would be great if you can tell us more from the CPAP data about your respiration or apnea events, however higher pressure does not produce improved ventilation. Your doctor should know this.
If he is trying to resolve obstructive events, he gave you good advise. If he wants you to exchange more air, he gave you bad advise, and should have looked at bilevel or at least the EPR feature.
RE: new lung problems - trish6hundred - 05-07-2016
Hi jxyzobrien,
Which S9 do you have, there are quite a few machines in the S9 series.
Good luck to you in getting your problem resolved.
RE: new lung problems - vsheline - 05-08-2016
(05-07-2016, 09:43 AM)jxyzobrien Wrote: he also wrote a new script for machine since it seems like i am not getting enough air.
old setting was 14 now he did 16.
he said settings are 4 to 25 for resmed machine. so i guess i go back to
rotech and they change settings
Most S9 VPAP (bilevel CPAP) machines allowed pressures to be set between 4-25.
You should keep a couple photocopies of your prescription, for your personal medical records.
Can you tell us the complete prescription?
Did he look at data downloaded from your machine before changing the prescription? If yes, then perhaps he changed the prescription appropriately.
If he didn't look at your machine's sleep data but only tested your lung capacity, then he appears to be deficient in his understanding of 'PAP treatment.
As Sleeprider has pointed out, on bilevel 'PAP machines it is Pressure Support (which is the amount the pressure is boosted while we are inhaling) which tends to help us breathe in more air, increasing our average "Tidal Volume" (which is the volume of air breathed in or out in one breath) and "Minute Volume" or "Minute Ventilation" (which is the volume of air breathed in or out in one minute).
Next to the on/off button the model name is written. Does it say "VPAP Auto" or perhaps "VPAP S", VPAP ST", "AutoSet" or what?
At the top of the forum pages is a link to a page with instructions on how to request by email the setup manual (Clinical Guide) for your machine. Reading the Clinical Guide will help you understand the settings, perhaps better than your doctor may understand them.
I suggest investing in a wrist-mounted recording pulse oximeter (this type has a separate finger sensor and is more comfortable to wear a whole night), to monitor your blood O2.
I think a good target for SpO2 (the Saturation percentage of Oxygen in the blood, as measured percutaneously, meaning measured through the skin) is between 94 and 96 for most people with healthy lungs.
However, many COPD patients are easily harmed by too much O2 in their blood and probably should target 88%–92%.
If anyone suspects they have a lung condition which is not normal, I suggest they should google COPD.
Moreover, I think an average SpO2 of 98 to 99 all night may be harmful, causing too much oxidation in our system. Continuous high SpO2 can reduce the effectiveness of some medicines and can cause oxidative stress, which would gradually lead to health problems.
"administer oxygen to keep saturations between 94 and 96 percent. No patient needs oxygen saturations above 97 percent and in truth, there is little to no evidence suggesting any clinical benefit of oxygen saturations above 90 percent in any patient."
http://www.ems1.com/columnists/mike-mcev...xygen-hurt
"For most COPD patients, a target saturation range of 88%–92% will avoid the risks of hypoxia and hypercapnia."
https://psnet.ahrq.gov/webmm/case/172
http://www.emsworld.com/article/10915304...uch-oxygen
Take care,
--- Vaughn
RE: new lung problems - kwhenrykerr - 05-09-2016
Thank You Vaughn for the reply with links. Education from this form is priceless.