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CPAP and nose bleeds - ghce - 08-31-2018
Does anyone else suffer from a greatly increased propensity for nose bleeds since starting CPAP? and if yes what did you do to alleviate it?
I have mostly noted it whenever I have had a cold or the flue, have tried changing the humidity settings but really not much seems to change.
RE: CPAP and nose bleeds - CB91710 - 08-31-2018
Very common if humidity is too low.
Augment with saline nasal spray like NeilMed No-Drip Naso-Gel or Ocean saline spray.
Your body will adjust to the airflow, but you'll always need to add a little help when the climate is dry.
RE: CPAP and nose bleeds - Mosquitobait - 09-02-2018
It appears to totally be related to humidity. I have zero problem in the warmer weather with increased humidity. My nosebleeds only occur in the winter. You can use saline solution in addition to monkeying with the humidity levels. Also, if you take any blood thinners, including aspirin, check with your doctor.
RE: CPAP and nose bleeds - ghce - 09-02-2018
(09-02-2018, 03:01 PM)Mosquitobait Wrote: It appears to totally be related to humidity. I have zero problem in the warmer weather with increased humidity. My nosebleeds only occur in the winter. You can use saline solution in addition to monkeying with the humidity levels. Also, if you take any blood thinners, including aspirin, check with your doctor.
Luckily no blood thinners or I would bleed out
I normally have a very high platelet count and RBC and generally nose bleeds are very short lived but since using CPAP and in conjunction with winter and a cold/ flue the last couple have resulted in huge blood flows which just persist I would guesstimate between 50 to 100ml each event. Maybe time to get some new blood tests done.
RE: CPAP and nose bleeds - RedCoPete - 05-05-2022
This topic has been dormant, but after last weekend's festivities, I think it's time to post my story...
TL;DR: Yes, major nosebleeds (life threatening if not treated) are possible. Saline spray and nasal gels can help prevent them.
Background:
Long term CPAP, since 1998. Nasal pillows 2002-2018, stopped when comfortable pillows went unavailable. Nasal mask since.
Autoset, running 6 to 11 cm. Humidity high, heated hose to prevent rainout.
Warfarin user: last protime test came with an INR of 2.4.
History of sinus infections with minor blood seeping during such.
Saturday morning I woke up, and as I got upright, the nose started running from my left nostril. I haven't had a nosebleed in decades, but it was. Bad, quite bad. Could *not* get it stopped. After a couple of hours (much of it spent in transit; we're quite far from both the ambulance and the hospital), I made it to the ER. With a doctor slammed by Saturday morning trauma cases.
Got a nose clamp, stuff to catch the blood, and a wastebasket for the debris. The bleed was bad enough that it backed up into sinus cavities, one middle ear, and so on.
Once the doc came up for air, he removed enough stuff to see the bleeds, and cauterized the offenders. (Chemical cauterization is a lot less spooky than the heat type.) Clots blocked the right nostril and sinus, but they were removed (no description--it's disgusting). An inflatable tampon way up the left nostril kept things under control. and a neighbor came into town and picked me up. I owe him a case of good beer. Really good beer.
Rough guess, I might have lost a pint and a half of blood before the doc got it stopped.
Tuesday, the clinic docs removed the "Rhino Rocket", and while the resident was dealing with that minor mess, the senior doc got my history and told me that I've been lucky to avoid major nose bleeds this long.
He recommends Ayr gel for the nostril area (AFAIK, most of my bleeding was above that), and saline spray.
I remembered that I always used aloe vera gel when I was on the nasal pillows. That might have saved me from problems. If the Ayr gel gets too hard to find, I'll go with the Aloe Vera.
(And the blood tests showed it wasn't a mishap with the anticoagulant.)
I'm glad that the sight of blood doesn't cause me to faint. I'm *very* glad than when my wife did faint, she wasn't hurt that badly. Yikes.
Getting up in the morning has a bit more drama than I want right now, but so far, so good. Sunday, I'm allowed to blow my nose.
RedCoPete