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ResMed VS Phillips - racprops - 07-28-2021
As every time I make a comparison of the ResMed BiPAP/ASV machines VS the Phillips machines BiPAP/AutoSV machines I am told "To STAY on Subject", and if I want to talk about this I should start my own thread on ResMed VS Phillips...so here it is.
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - racprops - 07-28-2021
OK first thing right off the bat, ResMed is just as uncaring as is Phillips.
I contacted them about their S10 Memory Foam Masks and about the foam sound control connecter to these masks and how the foam will plug up in a short time causing mask seal failure and as will Phillips, was more or less "Go way your bothering us," and "we don't care..."
I will pull a copy of my report on this problem and post it here soon.
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - racprops - 07-28-2021
And here is an odd disconcerting fact:
We are all going bonkers over foam in the Phillips machine.
RESMED has foam in their machines as well.
It is hidden inside the fam housing.
Rich
I was testing my ResMed Air Curve 10 model S BiPAP machine last night and I think I figured out in short time I needed to know how to change some of the settings, so I ordered a ResMed AirCurve 10 S Clinician manual as they contain the special hidden settings.
The reason is I figured out the rise time from my base pressure of 9 or 10 for exhaling to my control pressures of 16/17 on my inhaling was too slow and thus was not there to control my Centrals and hypopnea.
This was happening as I was taking my normal and most common short shallow breaths the machine was not even reaching my needed full pressure which may be why BiPAP is less able to control my Apneas as well as my Dreamstation ASV, which hits me with my full pressure within a second.
As the ResMed system is set it takes longer to rise to it full pressure setting which in my case seems too slow, thus it fails to control my apneas.
This slow rise time seems to be one of the loved features of the ResMed machines over the Phillips systems. But it does seem to have a problem with the BiPAP and ASV systems, at least for me, due to not getting where I need it to.
Once I get the info on the settings I will try again. I will report back on this ASAP.
And this is so complex I started my own face book page here:
https://www.facebook.com/Coyle-Medical-speculations-105633598461353
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - Coffee Man - 07-28-2021
(07-28-2021, 12:17 PM)racprops Wrote: We are all going bonkers over foam in the Phillips machine.
RESMED has foam in their machines as well.
It is hidden inside the fam housing.
Rich
ResMed states the foam in the AirSense machines is different than the foam in Phillips machines.
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - staceyburke - 07-28-2021
If the Phillips is better for you please use it. For me it is a much worse therapy. I owned a dreamstation for 5+ years and NEVER could get my events lower than 20 per night. I worked with the best people here nothing changed.
I got a ResMed and I just looked that for the last 3 months the most events were 4 a night with 38 days with 0.
Again if your machine works for you GREAT but for me it was 5+ years of sleep labs, Dr appointment, hundreds of dollars and total tiredness, searching for an answer. I got it with ResMed.
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - Dog Slobber - 07-28-2021
Racprops would rip out the airbags in his Honda, because of a Toyota recall.
He would then use that as a platform to create a Toyota vs Honda topic.
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - cathyf - 07-28-2021
(07-28-2021, 11:46 AM)racprops Wrote: OK first thing right off the bat, ResMed is just as uncaring as is Phillips.
Can't argue with that -- see my thread Why I hate MyAir with the heat of 1000 suns
Sleep medicine as practiced smells strongly of scam. With the way that they act, they seem to believe that sleep apnea is all pretend, and their machines don't do anyone any good. Which is why they can shrug when they say "oh you should stop using our brand machine." Because they think it's like "oh you should stop wearing our brand of socks." As if it's trivial whether you use it or not.
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - racprops - 07-28-2021
OK I was looking for a more insightful discussion over the merits of ResMed VS Dreamstation.
"Racprops would rip out the airbags in his Honda, because of a Toyota recall." Guess you did not hear of the MAJOR recall for almost every make of car with decades of bad airbags...
"ResMed states the foam in the AirSense machines is different than the foam in Phillips machines." Yes I read it all over the place...BET you a Million Bucks IF you asked Phillips a year ago they would say the same thing, "Yes the foam is safe...."
I do not want to find out 8 years in the future...."Opps, we are so sorry seems we were NOT correct about OUR foam after all...'ResMed.
I have every plan on switching over to ResMed....for three reasons, One bigger water tank, Phillips never got the memo we need bigger water tanks, if you using any water in a Phillips machine you need to refill it in 4 hours.
Removing and if you want, replacing their foam ring/filter does not require surgery to get it out, and there is no way to put a Phillips foam back, with the ResMed all you need is a screwdriver.
Last they are NOT Phillips. THEY ARE NOT PHILLIPS!!
But I am having some teething problems with the ResMed.
I tried a ResMed ASV and I had MORE AHIs with it.
And there were a few other things that I was used to and understood with the Phillips which I am looking to see if I can get to know and get to operate best for me, currently, I have a great ResMed Air Curve 10 BiPAP.
I am looking into seeing what I can adjust to get to know it.
I hope to get a ResMed Air Curve 10 ASV sometime this month.
One other problem is we all need to fight "For the RIGHT TO REPAIR" everything...ResMed like Phillips does NOT want to supply any parts and charge high prices for them.
I for one do not like the way both companies are moving toward total control of these machines and pushing to get us to buy new ones every 5 years.
Pushing to stop all reselling of used machines.
Cutting out our being able to get readouts of our treatment and trying to prevent us from adjusting our own machines.
This would not be as bad IF I could find a REAL GOOD Sleep Doctor...my current one can not even read an SD Card in the office and does not even care what my system is doing, IF I am under 5AHIs I am cured.
Even when I am dead tired almost every day. Check out my Thread: Doing everything right and still dead tired?? http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-Doing-everything-right-and-still-dead-tired?highlight=Rich
My Doctor even claimed there was no way to test for Sleep Cycles when the very equipment they use during a sleep test shows when you enter Rem Sleep!!! What's up with that...
So I am looking into how I can get say 10 to 30 years use out my current machines....
AND HOW I can keep my personal control of my machines and how they treat me as so far I have HAD to do myself.
Rich
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - Big Guy - 07-28-2021
I have no experience with Phillips machines. Mine is a ResMed. From what I have heard and learned on this forum, ResMed is the one to stick with.
That's good enough for me.............
RE: ResMed VS Phillips - racprops - 07-28-2021
And part of this mission has been solved, I found a good Utube viedio that exsplains the settings on/in a Air Curve 10 BiPAP machine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ts9lNJ2g1IE
So we will see how things go tonight.
Rich