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Any differences between CPAP machines? - Magnuum - 10-05-2022
Hello.
40y/o male. Recently diagnosed with ahi of 88. Had an overnight sleep study at sleep clinic. No titration was performed.
Sleep doc who analyses the patient data is 1200kms away. We have a video call - prescribes me fixed pressure cpap at 12cm. He also puts "urgent setup" on the script, and "ahi / data capable"
Since it specifically says cpap on the prescription, that's all I can get.
For those that don't know, in Ontario Canada - there is a program where the government caps the selling prices of the devices and then pays 75% of the cost. Private insurance usuially takes care of the rest. The list of approved cpaps is small.
Adp and my private insurance won't cover an online purchase.
Retailers are telling me up to 16 weeks locally.
Sorry for the long rant, but my question is this :
In the case of a fixed pressure cpap, is there any advantage on getting one of the more modern units vs an older unit?
( recall aside) Would there be any theraputic benefit to getting a airsense 11 elite over something like a referb dreamstation 1?
If there really is minimal to no difference, I could get an older unit out of pocket and start now - plus skip the insurance Rollercoaster of compliance.
Thoughts? If there is value to getting a newer model, I can afford it to buy.
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - Brazen - 10-05-2022
There are definitely differences in machines.
Even the Redmed Airsense Elite is different than the Airsense Autoset.
Read through this thread, then ask questions if you have some
http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-CPAP-Machine-Choices-read-this-before-you-accept-a-new-machine
The benefit to buying your own machine and then accepting one from the DME when available is that you would then have a backup.
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - pholynyk - 10-06-2022
My DME is in Toronto (of course), but they ship out of province, so NW Ontario should be no problem. They are ADP registered. I don't know their stock levels, but they are likely to be better than your local DME.
Another possibility for lightly used and refurbished machines is SecondWind Supplier #2. They ship internationally, and may be flexible about supplying an APAP instead of a CPAP machine. Many members here have been happy with their service.
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - Sleeprider - 10-06-2022
I believe ADP allows the Airsense 10-11 Autoset as a CPAP, and that would be the best you can get. Someone that knows more about the Ontario ADP can correct me if I'm wrong.
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - OpalRose - 10-06-2022
Not real sure, but I believe in Canada they list the Airsense 10 AutoSet For Her as a CPAP, not an APAP. You might want to check on that.
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - pholynyk - 10-06-2022
In Ontario, according to the April 1, 2022 edition of the respiratory devices manual, the AS10 and 11 AutoSet are considered APAP, and the AS10 Autoset for, Elite and CPAP, and the AS11 Elite and CPAP are considered CPAP.
The 'Approved Price' for all of them is the same: $554 CAD. Maybe that's why they are hard to find here?
https://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/pro/programs/adp/information_technology/docs/respiratory_devices_manual.pdf
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - leonardz - 10-06-2022
1 I live in Ottawa,Ont and one local store just received an airsense 11 and called me up. They filled out the government ADP paperwork as required and charged me the difference. The issue is finding a store (You cannot get ADP through an internet based provider that I could find and I tried 7 or 8). This is listed as a CPAP machine for ADP purposes but is an APAP machine.
2 Good luck finding a place internet or ADP authorized provider who can supply you in less than a couple of months. I just got lucky.
3 As long as you don,t care if your results cannot be downloaded by the doctor or your provider , the resmed Airsense 10 without modems (this seems to be the part in short supply) seems to be plentiful and you sound like you need one quickly. This is also an APAP which is eligible for ADP as a CPAP machine.
Best of luck.
RE: Any differences between CPAP machines? - clownbell - 10-06-2022
OP - Would it make sense to buy it online, ship to a friend in USA, then go to your friend's house and get it? Supplier #1 (see supplier list at the top of this page) has a good deal on A0irSense 10 Autoset. It would appear this would skip all the bureaucracy and not have somebody beating you up.