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How to prevent back sleeping - DanEm - 02-27-2023
I made a habit of going to sleep on my left side.
Often I wake up on my back.
I know to get on my back I roll backward on my left shoulder (otherwise the BiPAP tube would get under my neck).
So now I am looking for ideas to prevent the turning.
Just a pillow on my back does not work. It looks like I push it when I turn.
There are wedge cushions out there but I don't think they would work for me.
I found a Side-Sleeping Backpack on Amazon that is expensive to try out.
My last idea is to somehow tie down my right wrist.
I will try it tonight.
Anyone with some idea on how to prevent turning onto the back in bed?
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - sauerkraut - 02-27-2023
DanEm;
The old fashion way is to take an old T-shirt and sew a tennis ball into the middle of the back with a patch ..
The thought was to wake You when You rolled over on to it ..
Never tried it but I have been told it does work ..
Good Luck finding something that works for You ..
Steve
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - DanEm - 02-27-2023
Thank you sauerkraut, I forgot to mention that technique. I did try it. Probably 50 years ago
It did not work for me !!! I just rolled onto the ball and it did not wake me.
I was young then. I will try my wrist tying first and if it does not work, I will try the tennis ball.
Dan
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - sauerkraut - 02-27-2023
DanEm;
How about sewing a wedge with the thick side up .. When You do try to roll onto You back it stops You ..
Having it attached to a T-shirt will keep it from sliding away .. Or try a ball that is larger or harder .. Like a
regulation soft ball .. Maybe the tennis ball wasn't uncomfortable enough ..
Best of Luck .. Steve
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - EddyDee - 02-28-2023
I rolled up a small towel and put it inside one of those canvas bags that you wear on your back. Works great for me, and since I had them lying around it didn't cost me anything.
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - DanEm - 02-28-2023
Using a backpack will be my next try
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - 2SleepBetta - 03-01-2023
After many failed approaches, the linked post links to an image of a knap sack arrangement that worked for me for many months until I tried a half inch higher (4-inch) c-collar which was sufficient. I quit using the pictured block without increasing flow limits or OA.
How to stop rolling onto my back? | Apnea Board - an earlier post
Off topic, updating notes for any reader looking at the pictured but extraneous mouth sealing scheme:
The image depicts earlier usage than now. Now the tan elastic retainer for the sealer strip is simply folded once, lengthwise, merely doubling the retainer thickness over my mouth and a strip across my lower face area, not covering my chin as shown in the side shot.
Over time and wearing a beard now, I've found it necessary to seal my lips better to control leaks and dry mouth. I have been using 1"x4" 3M Micropore tape folded lengthwise. The folded edge is pushed in to just touch my front teeth between cracked-open, taut lips.
Then the tape is smoothed tight to both lips, to corners of mouth and slightly beyond. Then I put on the gel strip and retainer as I did before recently beginning to use tape.
One learns: to remove some facial hair at lip extremities (for tape bonding there); to be careful removing tape from facial hair.
The mouth sealing scheme allows me to use the nasal pillow masks, Resmed P10 and Brevida.
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - SleepyGal2 - 03-01-2023
You mentioned that you tried using a pillow at your back and that failed. The first time I tried using a pillow at my back it also failed because I was using a polyester-filled pillow that was lightweight. I found a HEAVY feather pillow and it works perfectly for me. I found it at Costco a couple of years ago. It was not a quality pillow…just a cheap but heavy pillow. Because it is feathers I can reach back and pull it up close and tucked tightly against my back. The weight of the pillow keeps it snug against me.
I wish you luck in finding the right device to keep you on your side. Even using PAP therapy my apneas were at 30 until I started sleeping on my side. Now I am around 1 an hour nightly.
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - DanEm - 03-01-2023
Thank you all for your comments, I really appreciate your inputs.
The main reason I was looking for ways to prevent supine sleep is the behaviour of my FL results.
But last night, with the backpack method, I have definite proof I did not sleep on my back.
My FL results are not comprehensible to me.
I cannot relate FL with supine sleep.
With side sleep, I have both low and high FL.
I also use a cervical collar and a MAD. Both have been efficient to reduce my AHI.
So, I cannot relate FL with sleep position.
RE: How to prevent back sleeping - mesenteria - 03-01-2023
3M makes two tapes, both blue in colour, with one called 'strong hold' and the other is more of a paper product with the descriptor, "sensitive skin tape". Both work quite well with the former able to be used on at least three successive nights. The key to both, and I have proven this time after time, is having a freshly scrubbed (with soap and water) mouth area before applying the tape.
Then, next morning, take about 45 seconds (yeah, it's a bit much, but hear me out...) to sssllllooooooooowwly peel off the tape. The idea is that the adhesive will let go of your skin, but not of the ribbon itself. Gently wrap the tape around the spool onto the fresh tape. It won't alter the fresh tape's adhesive/clean layer below it, but it will allow you to use it at least one more time...both types of tape. This keeps the cost down if penny-pinching (seniors) is a concern.
Sorry to introduce an off-topic post and subject, but it has been alluded to, and maybe it will help just one reader in the future.
BTW, there is one surefire way to prevent back-sleeping. You fall asleep on your side, but with your butt and back right on the edge of the mattress. Believe me, you'll only try to turn onto your back once.
