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How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - SluggerBaloney - 03-29-2024

I have a Dreamstataion and the humidifier tank is to small and runs out every night. I bough a bigger tank, one of these things (https://www.amazon.com/HC150-Heated-Humidifier-Chamber-Reusable/dp/B000RDQ84C). Instead of spending $200+ on the official heating pad, I sat it on a coffee mug warmer and it worked fine as a humidifier. 

the problem is since I can't connect a heated hose to the tank I get insane condensation and rain out in the tube and mask. I tried 2 of those hose snuggies and it didn't help at all. If there any way to prevent that or is this a failed experiment?


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - Sleeprider - 03-29-2024

My suspicion is that the coffee mug warmer is too hot, and is heating the water far above the temperature an "official" humidifier operates at. This generates a much warmer, moister air that will certainly condense, even in an insulated tube. You need to find a thermostat to regulate the warmer to shut off at 90-95 degrees F, which is pretty much the upper end of operating conditions in a humidifier. Get a thermometer on the job and see what the water temperature is in that chamber with the mug warmer on.


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - Sleeprider - 03-29-2024

Don't laugh too hard, but I think this might work... https://www.homebrewpal.com/essential-accessories/kombucha-heating-wrap-fermentation-heating-pad-with-temperature-control/ And you can upgrade your humidifier chamber to 1-gallon! Smile Also available on Amazon


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - SarcasticDave94 - 03-29-2024

Looks like Doc Google has a stand alone heated hose for CPAP, 3B ComfortLine by name. $45 for the kit which looks to have 1 hose and the power supply control.


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - SluggerBaloney - 03-31-2024

(03-29-2024, 02:10 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: My suspicion is that the coffee mug warmer is too hot, and is heating the water far above the temperature an "official" humidifier operates at. This generates a much warmer, moister air that will certainly condense, even in an insulated tube.  You need to find a thermostat to regulate the warmer to shut off at 90-95 degrees F, which is pretty much the upper end of operating conditions in a humidifier.  Get a thermometer on the job and see what the water temperature is in that chamber with the mug warmer on.

I initially thought the same thing but according to the user manual for the Phillips Humidifier (https://www.philips.com/c-dam/b2bhc/master/landing-pages/src/update/replacement-devices/dreamstation/en-us/philips-dreamstation-humidifier-user-manual.pdf) on page 19 it gives  max temp for the heater plate of 149 degrees. The coffee warmer has a digital thermostat that I set to the lowest setting, which is 130 degrees. So it's not even getting as hot as the built in heater plate. 

The kambucha wrap is a neat idea but the sides of the tank are plastic and it looks like that is designed to go on glass

I did find that externally powered heated hose and ordered it, it is on the way. I will report back if that solves the issue


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - SarcasticDave94 - 03-31-2024

Certainly hope it helps.

I think you've given me a great idea when I get a therapy machine again. I'll do a one up, I'm using a coffee carafe as my humidifier tub. And yes that's with the coffee in it.

The new Mr. Coffee 12 cup CPAP humidifier. Get yours today.

lots-o-coffee


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - fixed it - 04-01-2024

Before I started using heated hoses, I was able to limit rainout by elevating the first 1.5 feet of the 6 foot hose above the machine and the bed. This appears to let some of the condesated humidity to roll back into the machine instead of accumulating in the hose.


RE: How to stop rain out from external humidifier? - SluggerBaloney - 04-02-2024

My machine is on the floor so there is more than that length of vertical drop. The problem is condensation in the mask.