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Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
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09-26-2021, 08:49 AM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
I am not at home but should the P10 pillows have air coming out the vents in the front? I am now thinking maybe I am exhaling into the tube and that is what’s creating the warm air and condensation. I have not changed the mask system yet… maybe those little screens are clogged?
09-26-2021, 09:16 AM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
The P10's vents have been the source of several threads here. Three different ones come to mind immediately. One was from a member that observed, and documented, "particulates" trapped in the P10's mesh, even after cleaning. Another member had reported waking up with headaches and found that increasing the venting of the mesh alleviated this problem. Third was about the mesh being so fine, that moisture will create blockage of the venting. This can be caused by high humidity setting on the CPAP.
A quick search found the following threads that you may find interesting. http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...YPERCAPNIA http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid366445 http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...#pid288382 http://www.apneaboard.com/forums/Thread-...Airfit-P10 I'm sure there are many other threads, but these seem to address your post.
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09-26-2021, 10:05 AM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
The moisture condensing in the mask despite having the humidifier turned off comes from the efforts of your nose to make that cold dry air more closely resemble the moist interior of your lungs. Along the way it also dries out your month.
The simple fact is that the air you exhale is warm and moist, as anyone who steps outside in a northern winter can tell you. When it hits the comparatively cool mask parts, it condenses. The solution is to warm up the mask by turing up the tube temperature, but not too much. Admin Note:
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09-26-2021, 12:27 PM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
Maybe post a new shot now that the tank connection is fixed (?).
That Tidal Volume at 1200+ median seemed high, no ? (mine is usually around 580 at 14cm pressure) Imho, you shouldnt be making a whole lot of rainout with no water in the humidifier, unless your house is very humid. If its in the mask only (not hose), could it be just drooling ? If the mask isn't venting, that would not be good.. thats how we get rid of the CO2
09-27-2021, 06:51 AM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
I will try to post a screenshot of the report.
Yesterday I blasted the vents with my waterpik and let them dry. Last night I put on the mask I could feel the difference. When I breathed in the air was cooler and when I exhaled I could feel warm air from the vents. I slept 6 hours and had an AHI of .6. I have some moisture in the mask and I had the humidity set for 2.0 and the climate set for 62. It was cool here in Maine so we have the window fan in. I suspect it was likely my warm breath still. I was going to turn down the humidity (or off) since its not really dry right now, and the temperature up on the line a bit. But a HUGE difference sleeping... especially since I have been getting a couple hours here and there.
09-27-2021, 03:30 PM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
Fantastic !
You're probably going to start feeling like a million bucks in a few days. Still a good chunk of flow limit events, but way way better than you were doing before. Using the waterpik was an interesting idea, perhaps a little intense on the pressure, but it cleaned it out.
09-27-2021, 04:25 PM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
(09-27-2021, 03:30 PM)DaveCar Wrote: Fantastic ! Thank you, today was the first day I actually woke up and felt like I slept, look forward to doing that again! I am so new to all the readings, what is the flow limit and what does that mean? Yeah I dialed the pressure way back on the waterpik and used a less intense nozzle too but sure made a difference!
09-27-2021, 04:40 PM
RE: Hot air, can't breathe or sleep, ugh.
From my understanding, flow limit is the point where your airway starts to close, but its not closed off yet.
A flow limit would/could be a precursor to a snore (nearly stopped, vibrating) or a hypopnea (short full stop) or an apnea (long full stop). The AHI number counts Hypopneas and Apneas, but not Flow Limits (FL), as they are not as serious. They can interrupt sleep cycles though. |
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