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RE: pressure clipping
DanGagner - You are correct, our breathing patterns while awake are very disordered and normalize when we fall asleep. BTW: Another trick used is to cycle the CPAP on and off when you wake up as to bookmark it in your sleep data.

Pupcamper - Thanks for the correction, I thought only the P-R Bil-evels and ASV's required the Pro version. . . (What do you expect from a Resmed man)
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#12
RE: pressure clipping
i think the information reported by Sleepyhead is accurate here, and that there is a problem with the machine. I would set the machine to APAP mode and start using some alternative minimum maximum pressures. For starters, turn off Ramp so the 4.0 pressure is out of the equation. Set the minimum pressure to 7.0 which is much closer to what it needs to be, and the maximum pressure to 12.0. Let's observe if the pressure continues to clip at the minimum pressure. If it does, the machine is defective and should be returned for repair or replacement.

The key feature is there are clearly events that should cause pressure to rise based on the Philips Respironics auto algorithm. If the machine fails to perform as designed, this is beyond the consumer to repair. You need higher pressure. Let's start with that, and at least start to get the therapy you need. This is not a computer problem, it is a CPAP problem.
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RE: pressure clipping
(08-23-2017, 10:14 AM)Sleeprider Wrote: i think the information reported by Sleepyhead is accurate here, and that there is a problem with the machine.  I would set the machine to APAP mode and start using some alternative minimum maximum pressures.   For starters, turn off Ramp so the 4.0 pressure is out of the equation.  Set the minimum pressure to 7.0 which is much closer to what it needs to be, and the maximum pressure to 12.0.  Let's observe if the pressure continues to clip at the minimum pressure.  If it does, the machine is defective and should be returned for repair or replacement.

The key feature is there are clearly events that should cause pressure to rise based on the Philips Respironics auto algorithm.  If the machine fails to perform as designed, this is beyond the consumer to repair.  You need higher pressure.  Let's start with that, and at least start to get the therapy you need.  This is not a computer problem, it is a CPAP problem.

Thanks. I'll try that tonight. I found respironics sort of argumentative. I hope they'd make good on the machine if there is a problem. So far the rep I talked with said that clipping at 6 in apap is normal. I'll post my results in the morning.

Thank you.
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RE: pressure clipping
That is NOT normal behavior. Philips Respironics (which is just a mile away from me) will not talk to end-users in an meaningful way. Who is your DME or supplier?
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RE: pressure clipping
(08-23-2017, 03:10 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: That is NOT normal behavior.  Philips Respironics (which is just a mile away from me) will not talk to end-users in an meaningful way. Who is your DME or supplier?

I called them directly at their 800 number that was in the respironics manual. The company I purchased it from was "Fitness Lifestyle Company" out of Amazon.
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RE: pressure clipping
You may need to contact them about improper function of your CPAP. As I understand it, they can negotiate a return/replacement. Depending on how long it has been since you purchased the unit, it may be returnable through the Amazon return policy. Let's see if the behavior continues. If it does, your first course of action is to contact the seller. Your second course of action may be to initiate a return through Amazon. If you need help comparing reports in Encore, we can communicate via PM and I can take your SD card information on a Dropbox address and check it out and send you a report (PDF). I have no doubt the problem is the Dreamstation and that it is under warranty. This may be a good test of how well Fitness Lifestyle responds to a claim.
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RE: pressure clipping
(08-23-2017, 04:03 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: You may need to contact them about improper function of your CPAP.  As I understand it, they can negotiate a return/replacement. Depending on how long it has been since you purchased the unit, it may be returnable through the Amazon return policy.  Let's see if the behavior continues.  If it does, your first course of action is to contact the seller.  Your second course of action may be to initiate a return through Amazon.   If you need help comparing reports in Encore, we can communicate via PM and I can take your SD card information on a Dropbox address and check it out and send you a report (PDF).  I have no doubt the problem is the Dreamstation and that it is under warranty.  This may be a good test of how well Fitness Lifestyle responds to a claim.

Thanks. It's only a week old.
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(08-23-2017, 10:14 AM)Sleeprider Wrote: i think the information reported by Sleepyhead is accurate here, and that there is a problem with the machine.  I would set the machine to APAP mode and start using some alternative minimum maximum pressures.   For starters, turn off Ramp so the 4.0 pressure is out of the equation.  Set the minimum pressure to 7.0 which is much closer to what it needs to be, and the maximum pressure to 12.0.  Let's observe if the pressure continues to clip at the minimum pressure.  If it does, the machine is defective and should be returned for repair or replacement.

The key feature is there are clearly events that should cause pressure to rise based on the Philips Respironics auto algorithm.  If the machine fails to perform as designed, this is beyond the consumer to repair.  You need higher pressure.  Let's start with that, and at least start to get the therapy you need.  This is not a computer problem, it is a CPAP problem.

Well, that was the suggestion of the day! My setting changes made a huge difference and the pressure readings rose to the occasion. Only 6 obstructive events. The raised pressures of 7-12 was fine. I'm not one of those people who is bothered by the mask on my face or the weird pressure stuff going on. The dreamwear mask is very comfortable. Changing the pressure was noticeable but no problem. 

The high pressure still has some flat tops, but at least they're higher than 7.
Any other suggestions?   Thanks


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This looks like normal machine behavior..minimum pressure needs to be 8.

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#20
RE: pressure clipping
(08-24-2017, 06:38 AM)DanGagner Wrote:
(08-23-2017, 10:14 AM)Sleeprider Wrote: i think the information reported by Sleepyhead is accurate here, and that there is a problem with the machine.  I would set the machine to APAP mode and start using some alternative minimum maximum pressures.   For starters, turn off Ramp so the 4.0 pressure is out of the equation.  Set the minimum pressure to 7.0 which is much closer to what it needs to be, and the maximum pressure to 12.0.  Let's observe if the pressure continues to clip at the minimum pressure.  If it does, the machine is defective and should be returned for repair or replacement.

The key feature is there are clearly events that should cause pressure to rise based on the Philips Respironics auto algorithm.  If the machine fails to perform as designed, this is beyond the consumer to repair.  You need higher pressure.  Let's start with that, and at least start to get the therapy you need.  This is not a computer problem, it is a CPAP problem.

Well, that was the suggestion of the day! My setting changes made a huge difference and the pressure readings rose to the occasion. Only 6 obstructive events. The raised pressures of 7-12 was fine. I'm not one of those people who is bothered by the mask on my face or the weird pressure stuff going on. The dreamwear mask is very comfortable. Changing the pressure was noticeable but no problem. 

The high pressure still has some flat tops, but at least they're higher than 7.
Any other suggestions?   Thanks


Tonight.... 8 it is. Thanks.
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