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Central vs Obstructive Apnea - EERS Device and Trial
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RE: Central vs Obstructive Apnea
(12-09-2024, 05:04 PM)Sleeprider Wrote: I don't know how you came up with EERS...

Yes, I have seen the wiki.  I actually saw the doctor who invented it talking about it on a youtube video a while back.  I've read the research paper as well.  I will do a couple nights of testing then post an update with charts and a photo of my setup, but it's just the valve used in the study and a section (length to be determined) of tubing.  The makeshift setup I had was an elbow off of another mask taped to the end of the tube on my f&p solo pillow mask.  
I wish I could get some CO2 readings but the extra sensor isn't in the budget.  I'm still just pretty psyched about staying 93% - 98% O2 last night.  That alone has to be better for my body.
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I'm getting close to dialing in settings with EERS. Has anyone tried one of these for rainout?


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The normal solution for rainout is to use a tube support that brings the tube up from the machine before coming down to the user. Combined with heated tubing or a tube cover, that should allow any water from the humidifier to drain back to the chamber or not form in the tube.
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Yes, I did that when the humidifier was causing rainout. My issue now is humidity from my own breath since using EERS. I put my tube cover on the EERS section but it didn't prevent the moisture build up. I may have to decrease the humidity from the cpap.
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Last night was a short night, but I will post the chart anyway as an update.  Tidal volume is up, breathing is more stable, O2 drops are gone.


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Looks good. Still see some periodic breathing, but much better than CA events. You can try insulating the EERS and possibly the mask to reduce rainout.
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RE: Central vs Obstructive Apnea
My EERS
F&P Solo Pillow
Heat Moisture Exchanger
24" flex tube
Whisper swivel valve
6 inch flex tube (used as a connector)
F&P non-breathing valve

   

Yes, I know I have more dead space than was used in the published study. I have tried 6, 12, 18, and 24". 24" brings my median tidal volume up to around 600.
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Looks great. Don't hesitate to cover that with some fleece tubing cover like SnuggleHose (Amazon) to prevent condensation. I added your setup to the wiki.
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Pulse and O2 trends are very encouraging.  It's interesting that I see improvement the rest of the night even if I remove the CPAP and go back to sleep  Thinking-about


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Very nice trendline you have there. Would you mind if I added EERS to your thread title?
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