F10: Headgear all stretched out and no place to go

[sonicboom]

FWIW I had no problems with the clips holding place through the night using one on each strap - top and back.

[FrankNichols]

The clips do not solve the problem that I am referring to, they reduce the length of the strap, but the strap is still stretchy. I believe it is the stretchiness of the mask that causes problems for SOME when they took and turn or sleep on their side. My new head gear is very tight, but it. still gets pulled over to the side when I rub it on my pillow while rolling. That does not happen with the non-stretchy version I made.

[Sleeprider]

Just for you, the Hannibal Lechter mask. We mght have to seal up the holes and find a way to attach a tube, but I'm sure this will not slip.

[FrankNichols]

Just for you, the Hannibal Lechter mask.

It looks like it has built in leaks But, thank you!

[Rcgop]

I know I have posted this before, but, I find satin pillow case liners help on the "sliding" part of the problem. They zip closed so the pillow does not slide out. I only found them in standard size and cost around $10.

[FrankNichols]

I know I have posted this before, but, I find satin pillow case liners help on the "sliding" part of the problem. They zip closed so the pillow does not slide out. I only found them in standard size and cost around $10.

That is a good idea, I like it, sadly I can't use it. Satin and silk affect me like finger nails on a chalk board affect some people. The feel of them make uncontrollable shivers run up and down my spine!

Frank

[FrankNichols]

Well, it has been 5 days now and I am running around AHI 1.5 with large leaks below 5% (on a bad night) using the F10 with my modified head gear. Trying the new stretchy head gear results in large leaks in the 50% to 90% range and AHI 10 or so, but the AHI is probably meaningless at that level of large leaks.

I am not trying to push this on anyone, but I have read many people here that have problems taming leak on the F10. The "normal" path taken is to tighten down the straps until it is very uncomfortable and leaves deep red creases in your face when you wake up. This method uses a non-stretchy velcro applied over the existing strap - no modification required to try it. It doesn't make any permanent changes to the F10 or its straps, you just lay the regular velcro over the existing straps.

The result is a strap that you can wear much looser - like the F10 is designed to be worn - and still not get large leaks when sleeping on your side and/or flopping around. I am not saying it is perfect, but it is MUCH more comfortable than the over tightened stretchy normal straps, and it is inexpensive (a couple dollars), and as far as I can see at this point, it does not wear out, I have been using it for over a month all together and can highly recommend it for people that can't use P10's (mouth breathers) and that have high leak rates with the F10.

[aquanaut20]

I had a more brutal solution, cut the over the head strap and stapled the excess out...

…  Philip