Major rainout with new gear

[brianps]

Hi all

Haven't posted for a while, but have kept an eye on the forum.

Just retired me Resmed s9 elite after several years with no major issues. Now using Airsense 10 Autoset, Airfit p10 mask, and Climateline heated tubing. Tube temp and humidity were both set to Auto. Our bedroom temp is quite cool.

Woke up last night with major rainout, and as a result had a crappy day. Discovered today my Climateline tube was very wet, along with pillows and small tube.

I'm trying manual temp and humidity settings, but in the meantime, can I ask:

1. I thought the heating was supposed to eliminate moisture in the tube. Apparently not?! Or am I crazy?
2. What is the most effective way of drying the tube out quickly?

Thanks in advance,
brianps

[SarcasticDave94]

1. I'd go for at least a manual tube setting of 80°F or near that. Adjust it up or down a few clicks to get it where you need it to combat rainout. You may want to consider a hose cover.

2. To dry it, remove it and drain water into the sink and attach it to your PAP and turn it on minus mask for a few seconds to blow moisture out.

Done. Get a coffee, you've earned it.

[RayBee]

1. I'd go for at least a manual tube setting of 80°F or near that. Adjust it up or down a few clicks to get it where you need it to combat rainout. You may want to consider a hose cover.

2. To dry it, remove it and drain water into the sink and attach it to your PAP and turn it on minus mask for a few seconds to blow moisture out.

Done. Get a coffee, you've earned it.

I'm using a very similar setup with the climateline tube and humidity level and tube heat all on auto. I had one night with a bunch of unexpected rainout too. Put on one of those fleece hose covers and that seemed to have cured the rainout problem. Be advised that the covers are cut to length for a standard hose. The climateline hose is about 6 to 8 inches longer (I didn't measure them) so there will be an uncovered segment if used on climateline. Not a problem for functionality though.

If you drain the majority of water from the rained-out tube, and shake it around a little while doing so, you can put it all back on right away and it should dry out as you are using it. Unless the environment supports the production of rainout again.

The hose covers do work great though. Pick your favorite color and go for it.

[Sleeprider]

I have never had a problem with a tube setting of 80 and humidity at 3 or 4. I use a Snugglehose fleece cover (Amazon) that fits tubes up to 8-feet. The extra length allows the cover to go over the tube and the smaller tube on the P10 mask. It feels very soft and warm on your face and will prevent any possibility of condensation all the way to the mask.

[Big Guy]

is your machine placed lower than the top mattress of your bed? Are you using a hose holder / hanger? 

A hose cover is a good idea.

[brianps]

Hi all and many thanks to all of you who have posted helpful responses. 

I seem to have solved the problem with a combination of manual temp and humidity modifications. 

I really appreciate the thoughtful and helpful folks on this forum. 

Thanks again! ?

[Sleeprider]

Perhaps you might share the solution so others will benefit?

[BobbieM]

I also have problems with rainout and am looking for hose covers on Amazon. Any recommendations or are the brands similar? Can anyone share their experience ?

[brianps]

Perhaps you might share the solution so others will benefit?

Sure! I changed Climate control to manual, reduced the hose temp to 75, and the humidity to level 3. I also keep the short mask hose and part of the heated hose under the covers. 

Not exactly an elegant solution, but it’s working so far. 

I might mention as well that we keep our bedroom door closed (cat tends to  walk all over us when he gets hungry), and the room is quite cool. The night of the rainout was very cold; we had a late snowfall here in Ontario. That may have been a contributing factor. It may be that the AirSense will need a bit more tinkering to account for weather than my old Elite S9. 

Hope that’s helpful!

[Avign0n323]

I just got the AirSense 11 AutoSet (used CPAP for 5 years, but this is replacement for recalled DreamStation), and am getting major rainout issues, too. I have the ClimateLineAir 11 heated tubing, but...even up to 86 degrees, the tubing doesn't feel warm at all--shouldn't it?

I have adjusted things too, and ended up with Climate Control to Manual, Humidity to 3, and Tube Temp to 86%, which has eliminated most of the rainout, but...I feel kinda dry in the morning, so, need to turn Humidity higher...but, then, rainout...

Thoughts, or do I have a defective heated tube (and...if it's defective, wouldn't the machine register a fault)?

Thanks!!