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Titrating ASV with low AHI
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Titrating ASV with low AHI
I've been using the ASV for a year+ now. I'm on low pressure settings (5.0 min EPAP, 6.0 PS, 15.0 max IPAP)OSCAR says I have very low AHI (<0.5), but I still often feel very sleepy

My daytime sleepiness is also highly volatile, so hard to notice minor improvements. If my AHI is very low, how should I titrate my ASV?
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RE: Titrating ASV with low AHI
Some numbers are missing in your ASV setup. There's either 1 or 2 EPAP, 2 PS numbers, and 2 IPAP numbers. And what mode is this?

PS 6 to start will be pretty high, if that's what that means.

Let's see your recent OSCAR chart with Events, Flow Rate, Pressure, Leaks. Don't zoom in on the chart just yet either.
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RE: Titrating ASV with low AHI
Thank you! Attaching some images and adding details on my ASV settings.

Mode: ASVAuto
Min EPAP: 4.00 cmH2O
Max EPAP: 5.00 cmH2O
Min IPAP: 4.00 cmH2O
Max IPAP: 11.00 cmH2O
PS Min: 0.00 cmH2O
PS Max: 6.00 cmH2O

Note also that I've turned off ramp, as of last night. I've seen that recommendation on a few threads.


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RE: Titrating ASV with low AHI
First off, note the edit I'll suggest isn't to address events or chart numbers directly but the implied not feeling good for the therapy comment.

I would try 2 things, an edit for EPAP, and another for PS. You can do this as slowly as you want, but I'm thinking both EPAP and PS ranges to be a bit low. We're not going to Max anything out, but add a bit to both.

On EPAP, try Min 5 max 7 or 8. Later, maybe you might want Min 6, with an accompanying max about 3 higher.

PS, I would make Min PS 2 or 3, while Max can stay at 6 or go up slightly.

We're not after zero AHI or individual event types. Again my suggested edits are to address making therapy feel like it's helping you sleep more comfortably.

EPAP increase may help give you a base amount of air. Try the edit and if you don't like it for whatever reason, turn it back down.

A higher than zero PS Min will help exhalation because there's always going to be a differential between EPAP and IPAP. Right now PS Min 0 sometimes takes that differential away. This is probably the first edit, get PS 0 up to about 2 or 3. Then try the EPAP increase.

And keep an eye on your leaks. They're not terrible just yet, but increasing pressures may make it worse. And with ASV, leaks higher than your current will hinder the therapy.
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