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Machine: ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset/Lowenstein Prisma Mask Type: Full face mask Mask Make & Model: F&P Evora Full Face Humidifier: Resmed built in humidifier CPAP Pressure: 11-13 Cm Auto experimenting CPAP Software: OSCAR
Hello.
No number values are displayed in the FL column of the "Changes To Device Settings" section on my Statistics screen. I assume the FL means flow limitations, and I average 95% FL .11 through the night, so I am wondering if this data should be showing up there. The 95% FL data is displayed in the upper section that breaks out data for, Most Recent, Last Week, etc. It would be very helpful it the FL data can be displayed in the bottom section too.
08-01-2024, 07:05 AM (This post was last modified: 08-01-2024, 07:06 AM by Narcil.)
RE: Changes To Device Settings-FL info missing
which "bottom section" are you talking about? "pressure statistics"? "changes to device settings"? you'd like the same data repeated? maybe a pic would explain it better.
The "FL" in the Statistics page is reporting averages. It is not reporting an average of 95%, it is listing the 95%-tile. This confuses a lot of people. A 95%-tile means that the reporting parameter was at or below the listed value for 95% of the recorded time.
- Red
INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Machine: ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset/Lowenstein Prisma Mask Type: Full face mask Mask Make & Model: F&P Evora Full Face Humidifier: Resmed built in humidifier CPAP Pressure: 11-13 Cm Auto experimenting CPAP Software: OSCAR
[attachment=67780][attachment=67780]Thanks for the replies.
Here is a pic to help explain my question. Two areas are highlighted. FL numbers are showing up at only the upper area.
The top value section is for that day. If you notice, the lower section is reporting an average for the past 9 days. Try going to the Overview page, and select the last nine days for the time span. Look at the median (Med) on the Flow Limit. While the median (50%-tile) is not the average, it is close enough.
- Red
INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.
Machine: ResMed AirSense 11 Autoset/Lowenstein Prisma Mask Type: Full face mask Mask Make & Model: F&P Evora Full Face Humidifier: Resmed built in humidifier CPAP Pressure: 11-13 Cm Auto experimenting CPAP Software: OSCAR
As I am understanding this, the FL in the upper highlighted area is my 95% number. The FL in the lower highlighted area is my MEDIAN number.
I have been using CPAP/APAP for a full year now and my MEDIAN FL has constantly been 0.0. Since the name "Flow Limitation" has a somewhat ominous tone to me, I have been investing a lot of effort to get my 95% FL numbers as low as possible. EPR has helped reduce FL's but has increased my CA events. Can I assume the software designer's decision to show MEDIAN FL in that lower area, rather than 95% FL, is because the MEDIAN is the real indicator of a problem needing correction, and that the 95% number is more of a "nice to know" value? I have an ongoing dilemma not knowing which to prioritize, FL or CA events. During all my machine settings experimenting I have been well below 5 AHI.
Machine: AirSense 11 Mask Type: Full face mask Mask Make & Model: Dreamwear Full Face Humidifier: AirSense 11 CPAP Pressure: 4-12 CPAP Software: OSCAR
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Sorry to revive an old thread, but I am hoping for similar assistance. I too noticed that my 95% flow limitation has varied over time while the median FL shown in "changes to device settings" is always zero. but I am trying to figure out which settings have correlated with increase and decrease in the 95%, or does that really matter?
That is to say, if one has a lower RDI with setting B while the *median* FL stays zero, is that likely to be a better setting regardless of what happens in the *95%* FL? Is that why it is shown that way?
If so, oddly my lowest RDIs are actually correlated with some of the less comfortable settings (felt like I wasn't getting enough air because the pressure was low - recent settings minus the unit serial number attached as an example). That being said, I think I've finally found a pressure that is consistently comfortable for me and only occasionally causes leaks (average has been 3-4), but I'm struggling to understand the balance of EPR off versus 1, 2, or 3 as I know it's typically a tradeoff between flow limits and centrals. You can see my last several settings have been experimenting with EPR settings - is there an easy way to get specific statistics for each setting that includes a more detailed breakdown of events and flow limits, or do I need to do that manually on a spreadsheet?
I came upon this thread via the OSCAR search engine, I hope my questions below are relevant:
1. why are the responses above, and Pool's original screen dump, mention Resmed scoring RDIs and RERAs.
I am using Aircurve 11 ASV: I see OSAs gone, but my arousals and subjective experience are bothered by what I judge as clusters of triangular Flow Rates of 30-80 sec duration, marked as Hypopneas. Is the Resmed Aircurve 11 algorithm able to track and score these "lesser evils" in my breathing stability. My total Quality of Sleep seems to depend on the # clusters cumulating through the night. I see and feel them, but they don't make is to any report.
2. The OSCAR term Device Settings appears in Pooboy's Daily View lwr left, also in the Statistics. The latter doesn't show my changes and their dates for mask, temperature, humidity ... changes sometime made during the night. So the clinician doesn't see them. Any reason for the sw to ignore such "Comfort Settings"? Maybe the same reason for reporting the median rather than the 95% FL; which BTW do appear in the FL Overview bar graph.
The AirCurve 11 series wasn't supported until version 1.6.0, the latest release. Any data imported prior to its release, will need to be purged and reimported for it to display the additional data. The AirCurve models do not report RERAs. Only the AirSense series does that.
- Red
INFORMATION ON APNEA BOARD FORUMS OR ON APNEABOARD.COM SHOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED AS MEDICAL ADVICE. ALWAYS SEEK THE ADVICE OF A PHYSICIAN BEFORE SEEKING TREATMENT FOR MEDICAL CONDITIONS, INCLUDING SLEEP APNEA. INFORMATION POSTED ON THE APNEA BOARD WEB SITE AND FORUMS ARE PERSONAL OPINION ONLY AND NOT NECESSARILY A STATEMENT OF FACT.